tomato coupe

Yeah, they went single file when they encountered someone riding the opposite direction. What else did they need to do?

urbanknight

Apparently not shoot dirty looks over it.

tomato coupe

As I stated, that seems to have been their biggest offense.

Reflector Guy

Obviously, they had all read this thread since their last ride, and had mended their ways. Mission accomplished!

pdlamb

The MUPs in my area have three lanes, one for pedestrians, and one each direction for cyclists, separated by white lines and with fairly frequent symbols. What I see is people walking abreast, in both directions, and barely managing to filter by when a group encounters a group coming the other way. Cyclists are fortunate to get a bike's width to pass (without a dog leash stretched across) even without an oncoming group of pedestrians.

I'm not sure what changing the paint color to yellow would accomplish when the white paint is roundly ignored. Most of the time the roads are a better alternative.

urbanknight

I courtesy done begrudgingly is not courteous.

tomato coupe

Maybe these groups of cyclists should hand out cookies when they pass someone on the MUPS?

Daniel4

On the road, I hesitate to move over to the right allowing motorists to close pass me. The risk is too great compared to the courtesy you are giving them. And they don't care anyways.

On a MUP, I don't mind moving over. The cyclist(s) passing me risks as much as me if we get into a collision so I assume he, she or they will do so carefully.

urbanknight

I guess I view it as very similar to driving on the wrong side of the road. If nobody's there to be bothered by it, no big deal, but when you're waiting until the last second while making the other party wonder if you're going to collide with them if they don't bail into the bushes, it's menacing at best. Then when they give a dirty look as if THEY were the slighted ones, it's pathetic. See my video above for a great example.

Perhaps you think the OP should be handing out cookies since apparently he's not allowed to have a sour attitude about it but the group of morons get a free pass?

tomato coupe

I think there are much bigger problems in life than other cyclists looking sour when doing what they're supposed to do -- passing single file, announcing they're overtaking on the left, asking someone to please move to the right. This is on the level of a waving thread.

urbanknight

Yet here you are willing to go back and forth about it ad nauseum. Plus you're ignoring my comment that if they are waiting too long to move over, they are making the other party start to take evasive action to avoid a collision (like in the video). I don't view playing chicken as "doing what they're supposed to do".

tomato coupe

The OP did not describe any of that behavior.

urbanknight

They still apparently would have preferred the OP jumped off the path and rolled out a red carpet for them.

tomato coupe

You're pulling a lot of your narrative out of thin air. You might want to stick with what the OP actually stated.

urbanknight

You're assuming just as much with "doing everything right". Why the double standard? I certainly didn't see the OP stating that they did everything right.

livedarklions

I've been doing "Passing on your left" for a few years now. Works like a charm if they can hear and understand English.

tomato coupe

I'm not assuming anything -- I'm going by what the OP stated, nothing more:

1. The overtaking group yelled "on the left."
2. "a few ask me to move to the right please as they passed me."
3. "groups of cyclists coming at me taking 3/4 of the lane, had to move to single file..."
4. "... they were not really happy about it. Dirty looks was usually what I got as they flew by."

Other than #4, what do you think they did wrong?

urbanknight

Only 4 things does not amount to "everything", and I gave you one such possibility which the OP did not state either way.

urbanknight

I gotta say, I've been riding quite a few times recently with someone who just uses a loud bell, and it seems to work better than anything else. I have seen (and had happen to me) people move left because they heard the word "left" at just the wrong time.

tomato coupe

So, your theory is that the OP started a thread about other riders doing things that he didn't like, but he left out the most egregious parts, opting to only mention the "dirty looks" part?

urbanknight

I'm just posing it as a possibility. We do not have complete information.

tomato coupe

We have what the OP stated. Conjuring up other offenses is silly. Are you next going to speculate that the group of cyclists might have spit on the OP as they passed him?

livedarklions

It stopped happening when I specified "passing" and "on your left" Just saying "left" or "on your left" doesn't cut it.

From what I've seen where I ride, bells confuse a lot of people. I think some of this is regional tradition. Most people around here don't say anything and don't ring a bell when they pass, which I find mind-boggling..

livedarklions

Was that before or after they put the frame pump through his spokes?

urbanknight

The OP stated that similar groups previously did not move over and that the dirty looks happened when he asserted himself and stood his ground. That would suggest that the oncoming group only moved over when it became clear that the OP was not going to move, which was likely later than they should have. No matter how early they moved over, the attitude that they wanted the OP to abandon his rightful place to accommodate their entitled @$$es is wrong.