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Old 10-31-20, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas
Bummer. I like it ok, especially in the summer. Best to ride on FAMILIAR roads.
Drivers on the roads I am familiar with are not familiar with encountering bicyclists in the dark. (Anytime, really, but much more so in the dark).
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My wife is talking about getting me carbon wheels for christmas. I’m thinking about going 50mm but is there any point in going 60mm ?
I had Rail52s and currently have Jet6+s; I don't notice much (any) difference. I'd made depth the last determinant (either way) and focus much more on the shape, width, quality, and brake track (if rim brake).
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
I couldn’t bring myself to do anything but fake miles.
Me neither. Watched The Mandalorian and some other stuff. Had a bit of twinginess at the start that cleared up, but glad I wasn't out in the cold. Maybe tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Drivers on the roads I am familiar with are not familiar with encountering bicyclists in the dark. (Anytime, really, but much more so in the dark).
In my experience, with a bright rear blinkie, drivers give me MORE room when passing at night. Of course, I try to ride on roads with minimal traffic whenever possible.
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My wife is talking about getting me carbon wheels for christmas. I’m thinking about going 50mm but is there any point in going 60mm ?
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Originally Posted by datlas
Bummer. I like it ok, especially in the summer. Best to ride on FAMILIAR roads.
When I was younger, I'd get up early and ride before work (which was always very understanding - my whole career, I've come in late-ish), but if I haven't been doing it, it's a chore to motivate myself.
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Okay, so I mentioned a while back that my HR zones seem to have shifted a lot, like RHR dropping down to the 41-43 range from 47-49, and perceived Lactate Threshold dropping from 164 to 159. Well, now I have DATA!!!

Yesterday's "Last Post-work Ride" turned out to be a route that I've done 6 times in the last 12 months (per Strava), so I put together a table in Excel of the Average and Max HR and Speed.



So, a year ago, when I did the same route 1.3 mph SLOWER than this year, my average HR was 20 bpm HIGHER, and I was able to push over 180 bpm at least twice on that ride. Even in July of 2020, I was still hitting 176, and the July 10 ride looks a lot like the 30 October 2019 ride. But between July and October, only 3 months, I got 1-1.5mph FASTER with 12 bpm LOWER average HR.

Not complaining, because who's going to complain about being FASTER? But I'm sure curious. I've had to revamp my HR Zones twice now.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I had Rail52s and currently have Jet6+s; I don't notice much (any) difference. I'd made depth the last determinant (either way) and focus much more on the shape, width, quality, and brake track (if rim brake).

Disc, I told her to look at light bicycles wheels but also included superteam. Not really sure how much she would be willing to spend. I think the light might be stretch.
I also asked for new rotors and a cassette with the wheels. Plan on making my old wheels for gravel.
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Not one of the top cantatas, but a solid B in my book and a beautiful performance from one of the best groups on the world. The text has something to do with the contest of belief and doubt in the human mind, I am told.

Whats your interest in it and what is your religious background? Being of Swiss extraction, I guess you could be Lutheran, Calvinist, Roman Catholic, or something else from the American smorgasbord. Being a Jew, I find many of Bach’s texts pretty foreign, but I am often so moved by the music that I feel almost ready to believe.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Okay, so I mentioned a while back that my HR zones seem to have shifted a lot, like RHR dropping down to the 41-43 range from 47-49, and perceived Lactate Threshold dropping from 164 to 159. Well, now I have DATA!!!

Yesterday's "Last Post-work Ride" turned out to be a route that I've done 6 times in the last 12 months (per Strava), so I put together a table in Excel of the Average and Max HR and Speed.



So, a year ago, when I did the same route 1.3 mph SLOWER than this year, my average HR was 20 bpm HIGHER, and I was able to push over 180 bpm at least twice on that ride. Even in July of 2020, I was still hitting 176, and the July 10 ride looks a lot like the 30 October 2019 ride. But between July and October, only 3 months, I got 1-1.5mph FASTER with 12 bpm LOWER average HR.

Not complaining, because who's going to complain about being FASTER? But I'm sure curious. I've had to revamp my HR Zones twice now.
Can’t argue with that. Congrats!
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Not one of the top cantatas, but a solid B in my book and a beautiful performance from one of the best groups on the world. The text has something to do with the contest of belief and doubt in the human mind, I am told.

Whats your interest in it and what is your religious background? Being of Swiss extraction, I guess you could be Lutheran, Calvinist, Roman Catholic, or something else from the American smorgasbord. Being a Jew, I find many of Bach’s texts pretty foreign, but I am often so moved by the music that I feel almost ready to believe.
Try this one on for size. I liken the melody to a musical Möbius strip, it just goes on forever.

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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
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Dear god, what IS that? Baritone bugle?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Me neither. Watched The Mandalorian and some other stuff. Had a bit of twinginess at the start that cleared up, but glad I wasn't out in the cold. Maybe tomorrow.
totally forgot there were new episodes of that!

I have to say, the pseudo climbing almost makes the trainer enjoyable.
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There is a HUGE party across the street. Parents and kids. I don’t see masks or social distancing. Sigh. It’s going to be a long and scary fall/winter.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Okay, so I mentioned a while back that my HR zones seem to have shifted a lot, like RHR dropping down to the 41-43 range from 47-49, and perceived Lactate Threshold dropping from 164 to 159. Well, now I have DATA!!!

Yesterday's "Last Post-work Ride" turned out to be a route that I've done 6 times in the last 12 months (per Strava), so I put together a table in Excel of the Average and Max HR and Speed.



So, a year ago, when I did the same route 1.3 mph SLOWER than this year, my average HR was 20 bpm HIGHER, and I was able to push over 180 bpm at least twice on that ride. Even in July of 2020, I was still hitting 176, and the July 10 ride looks a lot like the 30 October 2019 ride. But between July and October, only 3 months, I got 1-1.5mph FASTER with 12 bpm LOWER average HR.

Not complaining, because who's going to complain about being FASTER? But I'm sure curious. I've had to revamp my HR Zones twice now.
The only relevant question on your spreadsheet is; did you "center across selection" or "merge cells" for speed and HR column header?

Kudos on the improvement but to accurately quantify your gains, you need a power meter investment. I'm in the same situation and I personally wouldn't do it since it's prolly $1,000. Still, you've undoubtedly improved.
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
totally forgot there were new episodes of that!

I have to say, the pseudo climbing almost makes the trainer enjoyable.
First one is outstanding, and love the guest star.
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Does this make me a serious cyclist? SMH
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
The only relevant question on your spreadsheet is; did you "center across selection" or "merge cells" for speed and HR column header?
"Merge & Center" - so, yes.

Kudos on the improvement but to accurately quantify your gains, you need a power meter investment. I'm in the same situation and I personally wouldn't do it since it's prolly $1,000. Still, you've undoubtedly improved.
Yeah, I thought about power meters - BRIEFLY. I have 4 bikes ready to ride as the muse moves me. That's 4 power meters. Just now, all 4 have old, pre-Keo Look pedals, because I only have 1 pair of cycling shoes. I can't upgrade 1 without upgrading all! I also have 4 matching saddles - Avocet 02 Air 40R - which haven't been produced in at least 15 years.

This is why I compare more or less identical rides. Now, of course, I weigh 20lb less than I did in July, so that's also a confounding variable. But I don't plan to gain 20lbs to control for it!
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Fun club ride today, only about 50? miles but headwind on the way out which includes a 15 mile stretch of false flat/gradual climb with a few rollers. On the way back there is a steep descent for about 1/3 of a mile and they caught me napping. I rode the 15 miles alone, spinning the 50x12 and I closed in a couple times but could not bridge until the small hills came up. Fun stuff.
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