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Old 01-16-23, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Is any of it making it to lake meade?
Some.It has gone up to 28% from a low of 27% before this rain but I think most of that lake comes from the Colorado River. The recent rain had helped other reservoirs more and the snowpack is up. Still early in the season.
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Originally Posted by big john
Only 52 inches? I must have been thinking of some other part of Tennessee.

How many days over 105 degrees? Over 110? Those days suck.
There are some spots in the mountains that get more rain. But this is about the max you'll find in the US, this far from the ocean.

We rarely see days above 95F. The all-time record is 105F. I was out riding when we set/tied it.


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Originally Posted by genejockey
To be fair, they were racist then, too. It's more that racism was more acceptable. It's like the Speedy Gonzales cartoons, or the really racist anti-Japanese cartoons made during WWII - they probably shouldn't be part of what young kids read and watch, because they don't have the context to understand them.
You beat me to it. I have the Looney Tunes collection (4 disc set) and am a bit apprehensive of letting my 2yr old watch some of the older originals.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Is any of it making it to lake meade?
I haven't been following that. We're a lot farther north and our water doesn't come from there.
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Originally Posted by thin_concrete
You beat me to it. I have the Looney Tunes collection (4 disc set) and am a bit apprehensive of letting my 2yr old watch some of the older originals.
Yu could always watch them yourself and see. Besides, Looney Tunes would be wasted on a 2 year old.
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Originally Posted by big john
Only 52 inches? I must have been thinking of some other part of Tennessee.

How many days over 105 degrees? Over 110? Those days suck.
But it's a dry heave!
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Originally Posted by big john
Some.It has gone up to 28% from a low of 27% before this rain but I think most of that lake comes from the Colorado River. The recent rain had helped other reservoirs more and the snowpack is up. Still early in the season.
There was a NYTimes front page story just this weekend about the billions of gallons of rainwater being wasted as it empties into the Pacific, and what they plan to do about it.
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There was a NYTimes front page story just this weekend about the billions of gallons of rainwater being wasted as it empties into the Pacific, and what they plan to do about it.
There was never a way to collect most of the rain water in SoCal. We get our water from aqueducts which bring it from far away. Right/wrong? I don't know but this area was built without foresight, no public transportation, etc.

Developers fight to build large tracts of houses but there isn't water to support them. A local developer fought for years to build near Magic Mountain. They finally got the green light for thousands of homes, 10,000 in one area we visited recently. They plan on pumping ground water which has been used by smaller communities downstream. Those communities didn't have the money to beat the developer, at least that's how it looks to me.

We did notice the new development has nothing green. No trees, no lawns, nothing. That may change.
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This guy really hauls ass in the snow!

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I'm going to do some leaf blowing this afternoon.
I'm anti-leafblower. Rakes only at LoP Farms. Not about to rake wet leaves though.
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Dr. Suess has been unfairly criticized, in my opinion.
Go, Dog. Go! is a 1961 children's book written and illustrated by P. D. Eastman.

Lots of Suess's stuff is great. Think "One Fish, Two Fish." Some is not at all to my taste: much too preachy. His WWII cartoons were quite funny, by me. Particularly the one that had Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini in bed together.

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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Not inflation adjusted.
... cost only a little bit more than the handlebar currently installed on the Allez, when adjusted for inflation.

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I'm going to do some leaf blowing this afternoon.
Why?
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Got Zwift?
I’ve been doing Rouvy the past few days and find it way more enjoyable
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... cost only a little bit more than the handlebar currently installed on the Allez, when adjusted for inflation.

Or, significantly less than the crankset that is currently installed on the Allex, when adjusted for inflation.
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I’ve been doing Rouvy the past few days and find it way more enjoyable
In what ways?
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I tried Rouvy for free. The images are way more realistic (because they are videos, not a video game) but the experience is pretty much like a virtual solo ride. There is not the group dynamic or video game element of Zwift.

I suppose it comes down to whatever you find more enjoyable/distracting will determine your preference. I still prefer Zwift over Rouvy.
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In what ways?
mostly below

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I tried Rouvy for free. The images are way more realistic (because they are videos, not a video game) but the experience is pretty much like a virtual solo ride. There is not the group dynamic or video game element of Zwift.

I suppose it comes down to whatever you find more enjoyable/distracting will determine your preference. I still prefer Zwift over Rouvy.
Most of my riding is solo- I can ride some local roads on Rouvy (not AR).

They do have group dynamics like the draft, etc now.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I tried Rouvy for free. The images are way more realistic (because they are videos, not a video game) but the experience is pretty much like a virtual solo ride. There is not the group dynamic or video game element of Zwift.

I suppose it comes down to whatever you find more enjoyable/distracting will determine your preference. I still prefer Zwift over Rouvy.
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Most of my riding is solo- I can ride some local roads on Rouvy (not AR).

They do have group dynamics like the draft, etc now.
Thanks for the info.

The interaction with other riders is a valuable part of the Zwift experience for me, most of the time. For me that matters more than the quality of the scenery. However, I can see why that would be attractive to some people.
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Last time I tried Rouvy, the data drops and pixelating that I experienced were too much for me. That was last spring. I never had that problem with Zwift so I attributed it to the program.
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Last time I tried Rouvy, the data drops and pixelating that I experienced were too much for me. That was last spring. I never had that problem with Zwift so I attributed it to the program.
I got a little bit of that too, especially seemed annoying at slower speeds (on the bike). It just did not seem as "entertaining" to me as Zwift, but of course everyone has their own likes/dislikes.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I got a little bit of that too, especially seemed annoying at slower speeds (on the bike). It just did not seem as "entertaining" to me as Zwift, but of course everyone has their own likes/dislikes.
I'm curious now. Part of why Zwift works the way it does is that it is not running on a server, but rather on your computer, so it already has the map of whatever world you're riding through, and the specs on the 100 closest riders, so if you lose connectivity, it can keep running without it for some time. I don't know whether that's how other platforms work.

I think Zwift works well for me because of the video game aspect. I don't interact with other riders in the social sense, but I do in the "hound and hare" sense - I like marking someone ahead and catching them, for example. On the big group rides, like Tour de Zwift, it's fun to get in a group and ride together, with someone periodically attacking and getting reeled in, etc. In races, it's fun because it's a race.
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I'm curious now. Part of why Zwift works the way it does is that it is not running on a server, but rather on your computer, so it already has the map of whatever world you're riding through, and the specs on the 100 closest riders, so if you lose connectivity, it can keep running without it for some time. I don't know whether that's how other platforms work.

I think Zwift works well for me because of the video game aspect. I don't interact with other riders in the social sense, but I do in the "hound and hare" sense - I like marking someone ahead and catching them, for example. On the big group rides, like Tour de Zwift, it's fun to get in a group and ride together, with someone periodically attacking and getting reeled in, etc. In races, it's fun because it's a race.
I think of Zwift as a pedal-powered multi-player video game.

Rouvy is a pedal-powered virtual tour of wherever you choose to ride.
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I think of Zwift as a pedal-powered multi-player video game.

Rouvy is a pedal-powered virtual tour of wherever you choose to ride.
That's really it. As I said, the videogame aspect of Zwift is a lot of why it works for me. I don't care that the scenery is fake. I'm paying more attention to the road, the rider ahead I'm trying to catch - or the next gate, if I'm doing a workout - my own breathing, my power, etc.

I did a ride on Rouvy once. It was okay. It was even on a road I ride all the time (though not my chosen route, exactly - I never turn East on Sand Hill to go over 280 since a car killed a rider there. But the riders on the screen weren't catchable, and it felt different enough from reality that, while I enjoyed the novelty, I think it would bother me over time.
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well that was about as expensive as a 105 mechanical group set.


It was a good day until I almost tripped over the damn dog and woke Simon up, but it’s my fault.


Seriosuly, I want this dog gone. I can’t take it anymore. Mostly blind, deaf, dementia, senile, and smells like rotting dog poop all the time. Give her a bath 30 mins later she stinks. She thinka she’s a rooster, she senses first light and barks for no ******g reason. I could go on, but I think you all get the point.
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