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Old 12-14-22, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
It really doesn't. It's the only time in your life when you get to make any decision you want to make. And, from the sounds of it you've made some pretty good decisions.

You have a wife that loves you, a cute little girl who no doubt adores you as much as you do her, a son on the way, a well-paying job that doesn't break your back, a nice house, and you're not battling any serious health issues. Life is good!
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I don't know how people can watch TV and ride. I can ride, or I can watch TV, but not both at the same time. If I try to do both, I have difficulty maintaining intensity. ANY intensity.
Ergometer mode.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
It really doesn't. It's the only time in your life when you get to make any decision you want to make. And, from the sounds of it you've made some pretty good decisions.

You have a wife that loves you, a cute little girl who no doubt adores you as much as you do her, a son on the way, a well-paying job that doesn't break your back, a nice house, and you're not battling any serious health issues. Life is good!


I used to do a gratitude list daily, I need to get back to doing that.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Ergometer mode.
I think I'd find any excuse not to ride, then. Not a big fan of structured workouts. I tried Wahoo's SYSTM last year, but it wasn't my thing. If I'm gonna be stuck in the garage riding, I still need to feel like I'm going somewhere. I think that's why I can ride on Zwift's routes that go through virtual countrysides, but I really don't like Neokyo.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I think I'd find any excuse not to ride, then. Not a big fan of structured workouts. I tried Wahoo's SYSTM last year, but it wasn't my thing. If I'm gonna be stuck in the garage riding, I still need to feel like I'm going somewhere. I think that's why I can ride on Zwift's routes that go through virtual countrysides, but I really don't like Neokyo.
I use erg mode for endurance and just vary resistance by a few watts pseudorandomly every few min to break up the monotony over a couple of hours. Not what one usually thinks of as a "structured" workout.
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I use erg mode for endurance and just vary resistance by a few watts pseudorandomly every few min to break up the monotony over a couple of hours. Not what one usually thinks of as a "structured" workout.
I think I need the variation of pseudoterrain. That's why I run Zwift at 100% trainer difficulty. But that's me.

I have concluded, however, that running at 100% tends to make me work too hard on climbs during races. Fat as I am, I tend to end up in front of whatever pack I'm in on the little kickers, standing up and burning energy while others are probably seated and putting out the same power, or maybe a LITTLE more, but not 100+ more watts. It's possible I'm a dumbass.
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For hard workouts, I need music, which is a whole 'nother problem. I am talking feature-length sessions of LT1 boredom and "taintalgia."

Tell me more of what you like on Netflix, which has the advantage of streaming well from the iPhone via an HDMI dongle. I haven't really enjoyed anything since "Shtisel."
I never saw that, but looking at it, I'd expect you'd like Ozark. The Good Place is a dramedy with a lot of philosophical discussion and theory filtered into a funny show. The first season is excellent but it tapers off from there (still very worth watching!) as the writers ran past their original ideas. Lost in Space is good, but if you expect it to be fully faithful to the original you'll be disappointed. Locke and Key is a good teen magic story, better than that makes it sound if you take my meaning. "You" is outstanding but may make your soul feel dirty in the process.

Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Squid Games, and Stranger Things you must be aware of, but are also excellent.

If you decide you don't like any of those, well, there's no chance I can help you.

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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I never saw that, but looking at it, I'd expect you'd like Ozark. The Good Place is a dramedy with a lot of philosophical discussion and theory filtered into a funny show. The first season is excellent but it tapers off from there (still very worth watching!) as the writers ran past their original ideas. Lost in Space is good, but if you expect it to be fully faithful to the original you'll be disappointed. Locke and Key is a good teen magic story, better than that makes it sound if you take my meaning. "You" is outstanding but may make your soul feel dirty in the process.

Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, and Stranger Things you must be aware of, but are also excellent.

If you decide you don't like any of those, well, there's no chance I can help you.
So many of the best shows revolve around people making bad choices. Mrs. FBW and I have been watching "Homeland", and the other day she says to me, "Why is Carrie doing that?", and I said, "Has anything in the last 5 seasons ever suggested she makes good choices?"
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So many of the best shows revolve around people making bad choices. Mrs. FBW and I have been watching "Homeland", and the other day she says to me, "Why is Carrie doing that?", and I said, "Has anything in the last 5 seasons ever suggested she makes good choices?"
The problem is that good decisions don't lead to stories worth telling. Most of us would prefer to live that way when we have to live with the consequences, but in stories it is boring.

My sister couldn't understand why I said Cartman was my favorite South Park character when he's such a jerk. And he is, and I wouldn't want to hang out with him, but he drives most of the conflict that the show revolves around. Stan, Kyle, and Kenny would have much smoother lives without him, and I'd have little-to-no interest in the show.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I don't know how people can watch TV and ride. I can ride, or I can watch TV, but not both at the same time. If I try to do both, I have difficulty maintaining intensity. ANY intensity.
Its easy with ERG
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I never saw that, but looking at it, I'd expect you'd like Ozark. The Good Place is a dramedy with a lot of philosophical discussion and theory filtered into a funny show. The first season is excellent but it tapers off from there (still very worth watching!) as the writers ran past their original ideas. Lost in Space is good, but if you expect it to be fully faithful to the original you'll be disappointed. Locke and Key is a good teen magic story, better than that makes it sound if you take my meaning. "You" is outstanding but may make your soul feel dirty in the process.

Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Squid Games, and Stranger Things you must be aware of, but are also excellent.

If you decide you don't like any of those, well, there's no chance I can help you.
Thanks. I'll look into The Good Place. I watched a season of Ozark and found it, like many of the similar shows I've seen, populated by cardboard cutouts tracking mechanically around a basically unbelievable plot. In other words, not worth the gratuitous violence, which always bothers me.

As can see, I'm rather hard to please.

I thought Katla was okay.
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I'll be home alone for Christmas this year, I wonder if there is anything on TV I could watch?
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I think I'd find any excuse not to ride, then. Not a big fan of structured workouts. I tried Wahoo's SYSTM last year, but it wasn't my thing. If I'm gonna be stuck in the garage riding, I still need to feel like I'm going somewhere. I think that's why I can ride on Zwift's routes that go through virtual countrysides, but I really don't like Neokyo.
I've heard Rouve is better visually. I never tried it myself. Supposed to be actual rather than virtual.
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Its easy with ERG
ERG is teh Debil
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I've heard Rouve is better visually. I never tried it myself. Supposed to be actual rather than virtual.
LSS uses it. It is much better visually, really cool, actually, but lacks the social aspect of Zwift. Also, most annoyingly, it lacks in-app trainer calibration.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I think I'd find any excuse not to ride, then. Not a big fan of structured workouts. I tried Wahoo's SYSTM last year, but it wasn't my thing. If I'm gonna be stuck in the garage riding, I still need to feel like I'm going somewhere. I think that's why I can ride on Zwift's routes that go through virtual countrysides, but I really don't like Neokyo.
In Zwift, I do a mix of structured workouts, and intentioned rides. Once in a while, I'll just ride without any plan and put in whatever kind of effort I'm feeling like in the moment. Structured workouts in ERG mode give me the unrelenting effort demands when I'm trying to work on something specific (30sec high intensity intervals is one I use frequently), but I'm still doing it within the Zwift landscape, so the scenery is better than the inside of my garage door. Intentioned rides (target effort level) are sometimes done solo, but sometimes with a bot group riding at the w/kg I'm shooting for. Last night's 2.6 bot group ride simulates a moderate-high tempo effort for me, with a few bigger efforts mixed in for fun, in reaction to the dynamics of the group.
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Is it inappropriate to suck the wheel of a female Zwifter without permission or at least an introduction?
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Originally Posted by genejockey
So many of the best shows revolve around people making bad choices. Mrs. FBW and I have been watching "Homeland", and the other day she says to me, "Why is Carrie doing that?", and I said, "Has anything in the last 5 seasons ever suggested she makes good choices?"
Early in our relationship, LSS, who was even less of a romantic in her younger days, pointed out to me that love stories are about people behaving foolishly and acting against their own interests, and that mature, centered, people don't do that. It does, however, make good lit.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Thanks. I'll look into The Good Place. I watched a season of Ozark and found it, like many of the similar shows I've seen, populated by cardboard cutouts tracking mechanically around a basically unbelievable plot. In other words, not worth the gratuitous violence, which always bothers me.

As can see, I'm rather hard to please.

I thought Katla was okay.
And this is where I say it's not a documentary.

Yeah, you're a tough one. Do try You as well.
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Originally Posted by ls01
I've heard Rouve is better visually. I never tried it myself. Supposed to be actual rather than virtual.
Rouvy is good and I like their AR system. I like the TACX videos better, but would be on Rouvy if I didn't use a TACX trainer. Both have the problem that they seem to think we really want to ride stupidly-steep climbs instead of good workout routes.

Rouvy is probably described as "actual" because it is indeed real video with the other riders drawn on.
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Is it inappropriate to suck the wheel of a female Zwifter without permission or at least an introduction?
Some of them are smokin'! I usually break the ice with a nice "Ride on."
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ERG is teh Debil
Accurate...but it's really effective.
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Accurate...but it's really effective.
Structured workouts are hell without it, for me. Or, perhaps, a lot more hellish. The mental energy of trying to keep my power from wandering one way or another makes the workout worse. With Erg, all I have to do is keep turning the pedals, maybe experiment with cadence if it's not specified in the workout. That's how I figured out I can push more power longer at >95 than at <90. But hills still feel best to me at 85-90.
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