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Old 05-11-23, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by trsnrtr
i guess the question that i have is, how long do you want to live? Live to 100 in a wheelchair and may have dementia or live to 80 riding into the sunset? I choose the latter.

I was offered a buyout/early retirement at age 54 and with a history of health problems took it so i could spend my days cycling and doing other things that i enjoy. I worked part time and doing charity work until age 61 when i decided even that was interfering too much with my personal happiness. Now at 72 (next month), i feel that i made the right decision for me. Health problems still plague me but i can ride with friends, travel, and do all of the things that make me happy.

As hunter s. Thompson said,

“life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "wow! What a ride!”

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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Good morning cockers.
He said COCKers. Hehehehehe....

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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
More health knowledge.

The good news is that some of you already do it.

https://twitter.com/KnowIedgehubb/st...12903605968897
As a side benefit, if someone tries to start drama with you you can just pee on them.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I guess the question that I have is, how long do you want to live? Live to 100 in a wheelchair and may have dementia or live to 80 riding into the sunset? I choose the latter.

I was offered a buyout/early retirement at age 54 and with a history of health problems took it so I could spend my days cycling and doing other things that I enjoy. I worked part time and doing charity work until age 61 when I decided even that was interfering too much with my personal happiness. Now at 72 (next month), I feel that I made the right decision for me. Health problems still plague me but I can ride with friends, travel, and do all of the things that make me happy.

As Hunter S. Thompson said,
I'm glad I got out @65. I wasn't sure if I would be able to sustain on SS alone, but so far it's working. When my friend called me and said they needed me, I was tempted because I could buy stuff again. But just going into that place and talking with the guys was enough.

It's rare to see an older guy working as a dealership mechanic/technician. I've only known a few who have stuck with it until retirement. There is a guy still there who is 72 now and his health is failing. He's been in the hospital 3 times in the last several months. He does mostly electrical work but it's still hard. He has money, his wife retired with a good pension, owns his house, etc. And he's miserable on the job.

I asked him years ago why he didn't retire. He said he was worried about getting bored. I told him I'd rather be bored at home than miserable at work.
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Once again I was given a doctor's appointment for an hour before the doctor actually arrives. Not an uncommon thing.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
People who work past 65 live longer.
I didn't work for the man past 24. I'm still here. Almost 71

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Originally Posted by big john
I'm glad I got out @65. I wasn't sure if I would be able to sustain on SS alone, but so far it's working. When my friend called me and said they needed me, I was tempted because I could buy stuff again. But just going into that place and talking with the guys was enough.

It's rare to see an older guy working as a dealership mechanic/technician. I've only known a few who have stuck with it until retirement. There is a guy still there who is 72 now and his health is failing. He's been in the hospital 3 times in the last several months. He does mostly electrical work but it's still hard. He has money, his wife retired with a good pension, owns his house, etc. And he's miserable on the job.

I asked him years ago why he didn't retire. He said he was worried about getting bored. I told him I'd rather be bored at home than miserable at work.
The problem with raising retirement age for everyone based on increasing life expectancies is that 1) a lot of the increase came from reduced infant and child mortality, and 2) life expectancies are currently FALLING in the US., but mostly that some jobs use you up more than others. My niece's second husband worked construction, and by the time he was 45, his back was totally screwed up and he couldn't do a lot of the work, for example. By contrast, my one brother worked as a Psych Nurse, and it was wearing him down so he trained to be a Nurse Anesthetist and worked till 70, and is enjoying his retirement at 76.
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I didn't work for the man past 24. I'm still here. Almost 71
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The problem with raising retirement age for everyone based on increasing life expectancies is that 1) a lot of the increase came from reduced infant and child mortality, and 2) life expectancies are currently FALLING in the US., but mostly that some jobs use you up more than others. My niece's second husband worked construction, and by the time he was 45, his back was totally screwed up and he couldn't do a lot of the work, for example. By contrast, my one brother worked as a Psych Nurse, and it was wearing him down so he trained to be a Nurse Anesthetist and worked till 70, and is enjoying his retirement at 76.
If I hadn't been such a screw-up (and didn't have a divorce) I could be in a much better financial position now. I know hindsight is 20/20.
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Originally Posted by big john
If I hadn't been such a screw-up (and didn't have a divorce) I could be in a much better financial position now. I know hindsight is 20/20.
it’s not where you start it’s where you finish

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Originally Posted by seedsbelize2
Once again I was given a doctor's appointment for an hour before the doctor actually arrives. Not an uncommon thing.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Bear headed to the Valley

‘bear right’ ?
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
Oh it's real and spectacular.
and btw ...

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The problem with raising retirement age for everyone based on increasing life expectancies is that 1) a lot of the increase came from reduced infant and child mortality, and 2) life expectancies are currently FALLING in the US., but mostly that some jobs use you up more than others. My niece's second husband worked construction, and by the time he was 45, his back was totally screwed up and he couldn't do a lot of the work, for example. By contrast, my one brother worked as a Psych Nurse, and it was wearing him down so he trained to be a Nurse Anesthetist and worked till 70, and is enjoying his retirement at 76.
I'm an academic, still going at 71. Probably start a phased retirement in '24. Mrs. Badger, also 71, pretty much had to retire at 59: career (full-time) RN -- mainly on heavy neurological units. She was done, physically, especially her back. That said, she has a certain innate toughness: since retiring, she has survived thyroid cancer, a misdiagnosed burst appendix, breast cancer, and (just over two years ago) a burst cerebral aneurysm -- a big one. Took her the better part of a year to recover from the last on the list, but is now doing extremely well all things considered.
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it’s not where you start it’s where you finish

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For now I have what I need to keep my bikes going and stay afloat. 4 years retired as of last month.
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In my experience, most people that I know who are happiest are semi-retired and have control over their schedule.

To that end, I dropped my schedule to 3 days/week this year and am VERY pleased with how it's going. I am 58 and hope to keep going for another 15-20 years, maybe drop back to 2 days/week after 65 or 70.
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I asked him years ago why he didn't retire. He said he was worried about getting bored. I told him I'd rather be bored at home than miserable at work.
There are some individuals who literally have no life other than their work, and if forced to separate from that life they have nowhere to go but downhill. Others struggle along for a while but they aren't really what one would call happy. I find you need to have a multi-layered plan before you walk out the door, and work that plan until you find something rewarding to do. If that plan involves going back to work, whether FT or PT then so be it, just don't wander around waiting to die.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
There are some individuals who literally have no life other than their work, and if forced to separate from that life they have nowhere to go but downhill. Others struggle along for a while but they aren't really what one would call happy. I find you need to have a multi-layered plan before you walk out the door, and work that plan until you find something rewarding to do. If that plan involves going back to work, whether FT or PT then so be it, just don't wander around waiting to die.
This guy loves ocean fishing and I have had some of the fish he caught and prepared. He also surfed for most of his life. Says he doesn't want to surf anymore and i guess you can't go on a charter boat every week. He always seemed like a guy who could sail around the world and be happy. He told me yesterday that he was going to retire by the end of this year.
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Terry Hatcher was THE finest of all the ladies he drove away.
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For now I have what I need to keep my bikes going and stay afloat. 4 years retired as of last month.
I’ve been asked to meet by my investment people tomorrow. I am rather nervous, I haven’t had to sit down face-to-face with these people since I retired 12 years ago.
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