Pics of fast bikes with triples?
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Great stuff in this thread! Beautiful bikes and interesting discussion. I've saved every triple I've removed from a bike, knowing that I may want it again later (but perhaps also because I'm bad at getting rid of things.) I'll post up a bike if/when I rejoin this club.
Can't help but throw this in re: Battaglin's Pinarello: it's amusing to me, how all that work went to providing him a 40" (36/24) or 45" (36/21) low gear. Most of our bikes do that without blinking; I guess everything needed to be done the hard way in 1981.
Can't help but throw this in re: Battaglin's Pinarello: it's amusing to me, how all that work went to providing him a 40" (36/24) or 45" (36/21) low gear. Most of our bikes do that without blinking; I guess everything needed to be done the hard way in 1981.
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Man that's cool as you know what!
That looks like Spence Wolf had a hand in it or was the inspiration for.
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Posted elsewhere: Newly acquired Motobecane Grand Record with various customizations, running a Specialities TA triple and a Super Record RD with Rally long cage. Just discovered yesterday, however, that my 34 chainring is bent and will require replacement. Probably go with a 30 or 32, anyway. Now I just need a freewheel worthy of that long cage.
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Well it's fast if you can spin the 60t Duralum chainring! Early 1960s Desiree, also has a granny(28t) for going not so fast uphill, middle ring is 50t.
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Fast Riders Not Bikes
Bikes are NOT fast... Some riders are... It's the motor not the machine!
Back in 1975 following magazine articles by Frank Berto I did a bunch of "Gear Freaking". Using graph paper and my handy TI calculator plus trial and error I came up with gearing that gave me smooth, predictable shifting with 5% and 10% jumps up and down.
I settled on 49-45T half step chainrings and built some custom freewheels for different types of rides. A 13-26T 5 speed FW gave me from 47" to 102" and I had 10 easy to find usable gears. I used that combo up until 2006 when I noticed that all of the other older guys were using 28T FWs and smaller chainrings!
BITD I set my triples up with 49-45T half step and a 28T or 30T granny. I only use the 3 larger FW sprockets with the granny gear. I used 175mm cranks since they were intended for climbing.
When the boxed MTB triples came out, along with 7-8-9 speed FWs and cassettes, I gave up on predictable gears and I just ride in what ever gears feel good.
Some bikes that I have with triples that "could" be fast:
Colnago Technos with Shimano 28-38-48T D'Oeore MTB triple..
Early 80's De Rosa with a Campy 50-38-32T Comp Triple.
1990 Bianchi Mondiale with Campy Comp Triple cranks and 30-40-50T chainrings. I got these NOS on eBay for $25!
1980 Motobecane Grand Jubile with second generation Stronglight 99 cranks and 30-46-50T half step gearing.
28-45-49 TA Cyclotouriste half step gearing on my touring bike that I built back in 1992.
On my last several build from scratch bikes I gave up on triples. On one I used Velo-ORANGE cranks with 50-34T chainrings and an 8 speed cassettes. Like going from a 13 speed Road Ranger semi truck transmission to an Allison automatic!
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Back in 1975 following magazine articles by Frank Berto I did a bunch of "Gear Freaking". Using graph paper and my handy TI calculator plus trial and error I came up with gearing that gave me smooth, predictable shifting with 5% and 10% jumps up and down.
I settled on 49-45T half step chainrings and built some custom freewheels for different types of rides. A 13-26T 5 speed FW gave me from 47" to 102" and I had 10 easy to find usable gears. I used that combo up until 2006 when I noticed that all of the other older guys were using 28T FWs and smaller chainrings!
BITD I set my triples up with 49-45T half step and a 28T or 30T granny. I only use the 3 larger FW sprockets with the granny gear. I used 175mm cranks since they were intended for climbing.
When the boxed MTB triples came out, along with 7-8-9 speed FWs and cassettes, I gave up on predictable gears and I just ride in what ever gears feel good.
Some bikes that I have with triples that "could" be fast:
Colnago Technos with Shimano 28-38-48T D'Oeore MTB triple..
Early 80's De Rosa with a Campy 50-38-32T Comp Triple.
1990 Bianchi Mondiale with Campy Comp Triple cranks and 30-40-50T chainrings. I got these NOS on eBay for $25!
1980 Motobecane Grand Jubile with second generation Stronglight 99 cranks and 30-46-50T half step gearing.
28-45-49 TA Cyclotouriste half step gearing on my touring bike that I built back in 1992.
On my last several build from scratch bikes I gave up on triples. On one I used Velo-ORANGE cranks with 50-34T chainrings and an 8 speed cassettes. Like going from a 13 speed Road Ranger semi truck transmission to an Allison automatic!
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~2001 Kestrel 500 EMS. About 20 years old now... maybe not quite C&V, but getting there!
Ridden to age group victory in Kona by previous owner, who apparently babied it, as there's hardly a scratch on it anywhere. Tri bars and bar end shifters, DA7700 53/39t cranks, and XT rear derailleur/cassette setup removed in favor of Dura Ace 7703 triple setup. 52/39/30 with an 11-27 cogset. It's very light, and has nice quick handling without feeling twitchy, despite the 650c wheelset.
Set this up for the gf who is a little tall for the 49 cm frame, but the top tube length was about right, hence the high setback post and ridiculous riser stem. Hopefully as she gets more miles under her belt we can move to a more appropriate stem. Love the aero forks on this bike.
She loves Celeste Green. What can I say?
Ridden to age group victory in Kona by previous owner, who apparently babied it, as there's hardly a scratch on it anywhere. Tri bars and bar end shifters, DA7700 53/39t cranks, and XT rear derailleur/cassette setup removed in favor of Dura Ace 7703 triple setup. 52/39/30 with an 11-27 cogset. It's very light, and has nice quick handling without feeling twitchy, despite the 650c wheelset.
Set this up for the gf who is a little tall for the 49 cm frame, but the top tube length was about right, hence the high setback post and ridiculous riser stem. Hopefully as she gets more miles under her belt we can move to a more appropriate stem. Love the aero forks on this bike.
She loves Celeste Green. What can I say?
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I don't know if it's fast, I'm certainly not, and it was positioned as an entry-level race bike, so maybe not fast in that sense either, but here's mine:
1985 League Fuji, 45/42/30x14-26, Suntour derailleurs (AR front, Superbe rear), Shimano MT-60 crank, bags & fenders, 700x23s.
Sporting bicycles are good. Sporting bicycles with triples are gooder.
--Shannon
(Mostly just taking advantage of the excuse to post pictures of my bike, because it's one of my favorites I've ever owned and I think it's super neato and I like it a lot.)
1985 League Fuji, 45/42/30x14-26, Suntour derailleurs (AR front, Superbe rear), Shimano MT-60 crank, bags & fenders, 700x23s.
Sporting bicycles are good. Sporting bicycles with triples are gooder.
--Shannon
(Mostly just taking advantage of the excuse to post pictures of my bike, because it's one of my favorites I've ever owned and I think it's super neato and I like it a lot.)
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