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05-26-21, 08:46 PM
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Oops. didn't check the link.
https://www.liv-cycling.com/global/c...oad-bike/21387
I don't really care about the appearance of the dots. It's the fact that there's an off-centered stitched ridge between the dots and the logo, which works nicely as a track when you're swirling in the right direction. But if you wrap the opposite direction (leading with the polka dots ) then the ridges cover up the smooth half of the tape and it's not going to feel great when you grab it.
https://www.liv-cycling.com/global/c...oad-bike/21387
I don't really care about the appearance of the dots. It's the fact that there's an off-centered stitched ridge between the dots and the logo, which works nicely as a track when you're swirling in the right direction. But if you wrap the opposite direction (leading with the polka dots ) then the ridges cover up the smooth half of the tape and it's not going to feel great when you grab it.
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05-26-21, 08:49 PM
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05-26-21, 09:00 PM
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05-26-21, 09:07 PM
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05-26-21, 09:15 PM
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Oh, and the guy who taught me how to do it that way? He said, 'You have to wrap the tops going away from the rider, or the tape will unravel from the pressure of your hands on the tops."
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05-27-21, 03:05 AM
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Oops. didn't check the link.
https://www.liv-cycling.com/global/c...oad-bike/21387
I don't really care about the appearance of the dots. It's the fact that there's an off-centered stitched ridge between the dots and the logo, which works nicely as a track when you're swirling in the right direction. But if you wrap the opposite direction (leading with the polka dots ) then the ridges cover up the smooth half of the tape and it's not going to feel great when you grab it.
https://www.liv-cycling.com/global/c...oad-bike/21387
I don't really care about the appearance of the dots. It's the fact that there's an off-centered stitched ridge between the dots and the logo, which works nicely as a track when you're swirling in the right direction. But if you wrap the opposite direction (leading with the polka dots ) then the ridges cover up the smooth half of the tape and it's not going to feel great when you grab it.
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05-27-21, 03:06 AM
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05-27-21, 06:06 AM
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Why would the Park Tool guy go into all that about the hand rotation on the tops if it wasn't true?
05-27-21, 06:11 AM
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Which ever one I started at, it looks fine until I get until the shifter, then it's either (1) a mess with the raised seam, or (2) I'm wrapping the wrong way--back to front.
05-27-21, 06:13 AM
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Not sure if I any of my attempts at the "figure eight" were proper, or if that even solves the conundrum in post #6084
05-27-21, 06:22 AM
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The guy got one because he has an issue with his heart and the e-bike allowed him to join our ride. I thought this was great because he's a great guy and just rode with us as he did years ago. Then his wife got one which was not needed because she has always been a strong, fast rider.
The other lady on the ride has also been a great climber for years but has lost a bit of her fitness lately because of time constraints and now she is convinced she needs an e-bike, too, after seeing them drop us on hills.
To me, it's as if some pro racers showed up on a group ride, or at least some top cat 1s. They may be pedaling, but they aren't doing the same thing we are doing.
The other lady on the ride has also been a great climber for years but has lost a bit of her fitness lately because of time constraints and now she is convinced she needs an e-bike, too, after seeing them drop us on hills.
To me, it's as if some pro racers showed up on a group ride, or at least some top cat 1s. They may be pedaling, but they aren't doing the same thing we are doing.
Maybe its ok on a social type ride, but not on the semi competitive rides that I am used to.
05-27-21, 06:25 AM
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05-27-21, 06:27 AM
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I have nothing against e-bikes themselves and they do seem like a great commuting option. I even considered one for club rides when work took away what little fitness I had.
As one of the older, fatter, slower riders on some rides I do, if a few e-bikes show up it changes everything. A few years ago I did some rides with an old guy on a speed limited e-bike. It was a non issue because the fastest riders were still the same riders and e-bike guy was not confident pulling or mixing with fast riders, plus we could drop him on the flats because of the speed limiting, I think 21mph.
These newest e-riders are experienced racers on road bike style machines and it is as if they are suddenly in their prime again with extra watts to spare. I find myself in a group I have no business being with. I'm working and sweating and running out of water and they are just cruising along chatting. I stopped trying to ride with racers because it's no fun bleeding out of my eyes and red-lining my heartrate on every ride. If I'm going to work that hard at least I don't want to be dfl every time.
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As one of the older, fatter, slower riders on some rides I do, if a few e-bikes show up it changes everything. A few years ago I did some rides with an old guy on a speed limited e-bike. It was a non issue because the fastest riders were still the same riders and e-bike guy was not confident pulling or mixing with fast riders, plus we could drop him on the flats because of the speed limiting, I think 21mph.
These newest e-riders are experienced racers on road bike style machines and it is as if they are suddenly in their prime again with extra watts to spare. I find myself in a group I have no business being with. I'm working and sweating and running out of water and they are just cruising along chatting. I stopped trying to ride with racers because it's no fun bleeding out of my eyes and red-lining my heartrate on every ride. If I'm going to work that hard at least I don't want to be dfl every time.
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05-27-21, 06:53 AM
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05-27-21, 06:58 AM
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05-27-21, 07:06 AM
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Don't change direction at the shifter. And don't worry about it.
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I wrap top down. No finishing tape needed, and front to back over the top. Figure 8, with the trim strip under the levers. It's never come off, unravled, or pealed up from sliding hands.
Everyone has their preferred method and reasons why.
However only mine are correct.
Everyone has their preferred method and reasons why.
However only mine are correct.
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05-27-21, 07:10 AM
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05-27-21, 07:12 AM
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05-27-21, 07:15 AM
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05-27-21, 07:22 AM
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So I am going to go out on a limb and guess that you have never seen the iconic, coming-of-age film entitled "Breaking Away," which many consider to be one of the greatest sports-related films of all time (even though it's not about sports). The actor who plays the lead character is a Philly boy.
05-27-21, 07:25 AM
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Did you watch until the end? There was a massive pileup with only a few laps to go. They brought out the yellow flag then resumed racing with only one or two laps left. Thanks to the crash, there were only a couple of riders left who could win it. The Cutters finished second.
05-27-21, 07:29 AM
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05-27-21, 07:30 AM
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