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Landis drops EPO bomb on modern Pro Cycling. Lance is in the bullseye
05-20-10, 04:37 PM
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05-20-10, 04:37 PM
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I got a speeding ticket for doing 65mph in a 40mph zone. I know he didn't clock me at where he says he did, because I was doing 95mph at that time. I couldn't very well fight the ticket though, could I?
05-20-10, 04:59 PM
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05-20-10, 04:59 PM
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Ahhhhh....botto. I'm almost always on your side. Why did you have to go and stick up for the french?
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05-20-10, 05:00 PM
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05-20-10, 05:07 PM
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I'd be surprised if most of the allegations were false.
05-20-10, 05:17 PM
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I understand the frustration of being caught in an unfair net. Doesn't mean he's clean, but if someone was admittedly doping and showed clean tests, he's doing the system a favor to speak out when he actually does get caught.
05-20-10, 05:22 PM
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If Lance is a doper, then at his age he must still be a doper to ride the way he does. So, I ask you, what does he have to gain by continuing to race with all the testing that is now done?
I'll be waiting for an answer, but I'm sure I'll only hear crickets.
Talk about clueless.
From what I read, Lance seems to be an egomaniac. His continued racing only feeds his ego.
05-20-10, 05:24 PM
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I bet you guys have matching jerseys and shorts. I can see you coming a mile away, all decked out and no place to go. I bet you're on e-bay looking for vintage Look or La Vie Claire jerseys right now.
99er??? You two clowns were in diapers when I started riding so have a can of shut the f up.
99er??? You two clowns were in diapers when I started riding so have a can of shut the f up.
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05-20-10, 05:26 PM
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05-20-10, 05:31 PM
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Okay, so what about last year? A 37 year old man placed third. Explain.
My point: If he can finish third at 37 then he really is that good. Or are you implying he doped last year and is still doping? Because last I checked, they testign is better, more frequent and the guy is still afreak. So, please explain.
My point: If he can finish third at 37 then he really is that good. Or are you implying he doped last year and is still doping? Because last I checked, they testign is better, more frequent and the guy is still afreak. So, please explain.
Everyone who wants to dope knows what the tests are and how they work. If they want to spend the money to beat the tests, it's easy.
That doesn't mean Armstrong is using PEDs, but his not failing a drug test doesn't prove he hasn't, either. I figure if he's dirty, he's won on a level playing field and easily one of the best cyclists ever. And if he's clean, he's damn well the best cyclist ever.
And the only way we'll ever know for sure is if Armstrong admits to using PEDs. Because if he is clean, there's no way to prove it. So it's pointless to argue over it.
05-20-10, 05:33 PM
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I think you are missing the point of what I said. The guy that got caught admitted it immediately, and said the tests sucked because they missed all the other times he doped.
05-20-10, 05:34 PM
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05-20-10, 05:41 PM
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05-20-10, 05:43 PM
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Keep it civil
I bet you guys have matching jerseys and shorts. I can see you coming a mile away, all decked out and no place to go. I bet you're on e-bay looking for vintage Look or La Vie Claire jerseys right now.
99er??? You two clowns were in diapers when I started riding so have a can of shut the f up.
99er??? You two clowns were in diapers when I started riding so have a can of shut the f up.
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05-20-10, 05:48 PM
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You sure they're testing every racer's sample or just the top few? or a random sampling? testing is expensive.
05-20-10, 05:58 PM
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bitter washed up has-been tries to drag everyone else down, news at 11.
05-20-10, 06:07 PM
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Because there is more to his conscience than feeling bad for doping. He admitted that he did not feel guilty for doping. What is bothering his conscience is that he has been railroaded even though protecting the reputation of others who are guilty of doping. He has been officially shunned by those who he has been protecting. And many guilty deceive the public and continue to seek glory.