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Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 09-02-21, 05:43 PM
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For you indoor trainer guys and gals.

Is the kickr core pro worth the extra cost over the kickr core?
Looks like a sturdier base, and can handle more watts than my massive legs can put out as of now.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
This is my biggest stumbling block/objection to climbing (other than being a fat ass) - I feel like I should be moving along at a decent clip with FTP-ish efforts, so to be crawling along offends my sensibilities.

That said, I've never endured a "real" climb, and I'm sure that I would feel some sense of satisfaction upon cresting after a long effort.

whyfi doesn’t simply crawl up “hills”. Instead his speed increases as he go up leaving me huffing it everytime.
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When it comes to hills, I can’t seem to find the balance between gear, effort, and maintaining speed.

I either shift too much so my legs are spinning and my speed drops off, or I don’t shift enough and by the time I realize it my cadence has slowed dramatically and i’m white knuckling it.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
For you indoor trainer guys and gals.

Is the kickr core pro worth the extra cost over the kickr core?
Looks like a sturdier base, and can handle more watts than my massive legs can put out as of now.
Never heard of a 'Core Pro', and Wahoo's site shows the Kickr (top of the line), the Kickr Core (simpler base), and the Kickr Snap (wheel on trainer, the one I have)
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As I understand it, the Kickr's advantage over the Core includes folding into a smaller space, and you can get squishy feet that allow you to rock the bike a bit for sprinting and such.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Never heard of a 'Core Pro', and Wahoo's site shows the Kickr (top of the line), the Kickr Core (simpler base), and the Kickr Snap (wheel on trainer, the one I have)
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As I understand it, the Kickr's advantage over the Core includes folding into a smaller space, and you can get squishy feet that allow you to rock the bike a bit for sprinting and such.

But as far as longevity and what I’m going to use it for the middle one is probably fine. Just don’t want to buy something and find out A. after two seasons it broke, B. doesn’t have the capabilities that I may find I need later.
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I thought I read Pro somewhere, but this is way I was referring to as the Kickr core pro.
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A month or so ago, there was a 20 or 25% off sale and I bought a new Kickr. My 2016 Kickr screams like a banshee over 30 mph on downhills and it worries me that it might blow up. My new one is waaaaaaay quieter.

My wife rides the trainer daily in the winter and she's already claimed the new one, of course.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
But as far as longevity and what I’m going to use it for the middle one is probably fine. Just don’t want to buy something and find out A. after two seasons it broke, B. doesn’t have the capabilities that I may find I need later.
I've got a Snap, and it works well for me, apart from the decorative chevrons on the flywheel coming off. If I'd had a bit more money I'd have bought the Core, or even the Kickr itself. It's my first Smart trainer, so I can't really compare it with anything, but it's SO MUCH BETTER than a dumb trainer! Combined with Zwift, it's made my indoor training not only bearable, but actually enjoyable enough that I rode through the whole winter for the first time ever last year.
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If you want exhaustive details on the trainers you can read dcrainmaker’s write ups.
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BTW, a quick look at Craigs List suggests that the trainers everyone bought last year might be starting to leak out onto the market as people discover they didn't really use them. If I followed the Theory of Compensatory Cashflow, I'd have almost $800 that I didn't spend on that Litespeed frame to spend on one of those used Kickrs!
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
But as far as longevity and what I’m going to use it for the middle one is probably fine. Just don’t want to buy something and find out A. after two seasons it broke, B. doesn’t have the capabilities that I may find I need later.

Youre ballin now. - get the Kickr Bike.
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Originally Posted by datlas
If you want exhaustiveing details on the trainers you can read dcrainmaker’s write ups.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Youre ballin now. - get the Kickr Bike.
Don't listen to us. You'll have spent 3 x your bonus.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
When it comes to hills, I can’t seem to find the balance between gear, effort, and maintaining speed.

I either shift too much so my legs are spinning and my speed drops off, or I don’t shift enough and by the time I realize it my cadence has slowed dramatically and i’m white knuckling it.
It just takes time to figure it out. It's good to spin and I recommend spinning when you can but some people just climb better when mashing.
I've always been a perceived effort rider, (no electronics) and I try to settle in to a comfortable pace for long climbs. If it gets to the point I'm just grinding my lowest gear, that's one thing, but I try to keep a reasonable cadence, maybe 80, sometimes slower.

You could try a thing called breathplay. You count your breaths against your cadence, or any measurement of distance. It helps.

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Oh, everything is a-okay - some of us are still young enough to have libidos.
One is never too old! The chase never ends.

Its just not as pretty.
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BTW, a quick look at Craigs List suggests that the trainers everyone bought last year might be starting to leak out onto the market as people discover they didn't really use them. If I followed the Theory of Compensatory Cashflow, I'd have almost $800 that I didn't spend on that Litespeed frame to spend on one of those used Kickrs!
It's funny, the creative ways addicts find to justify their habit.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Don't listen to us. You'll have spent 3 x your bonus.
Is that a problem?

Seriously though, by the time you pay for a smart trainer and bike for it, you’re almost there. Plus, it’s such a cool machine. The only thing I don’t like is the bar tape. And, the cleats will cut the floor mat, but that’s true for all of them.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
One is never too old! The chase never ends.

Its just not as pretty.
That's the thing - the CHASE never ends. Chases are SUPPOSED TO end.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Is that a problem?
Well....not for US. For him, OTOH......
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Originally Posted by big john
It's funny, the creative ways addicts find to justify their habit.
Hey, I can quit whenever I want to!!!
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That's the thing - the CHASE never ends. Chases are SUPPOSED TO end.
Well, I may just be lucky, but it does end on birthdays and the anniversary. But, then it just starts again.
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