View Poll Results: What Are Your Helmet Wearing Habits?
I've never worn a bike helmet
52
10.40%
I used to wear a helmet, but have stopped
24
4.80%
I've always worn a helmet
208
41.60%
I didn't wear a helmet, but now do
126
25.20%
I sometimes wear a helmet depending on the conditions
90
18.00%
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The Helmet Thread 2
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Some ppl simply have too much time on their hands, and dream up whatever counter argument they deem appropriate to satisfy their pleasures. Go ahead and discount this, but without a doubt, at the end of the day, we will all be subject to whatever it is the imperial government decides is best...for both you and me. If it is to wear helmets...then that is what the law will demand. If it is to use insurance to passively force helmets on our heads, then so be that too (And by the way...last I saw some states were using insurance and illegal hiring practices to "weed" out smokers...and to some effect, fat ppl). Today it is kind of mute to argue this point, seeing there are helmet laws for motorcycles, helmet laws for kids, and helmet rules for professional riders. Handwriting is on the wall, best get used to wearing a helmet.
*Let me take yet another opportunity to complain about "***" being censored on this forum. After more than twenty years of participation on online forums it remains the most childish rule I have ever seen.
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To helmet or not to helmet, that is the question:
Whether 'tis wiser to crash and burn with noggin directly impacting terra firma, or what-ever,
Or to have some barrier between, THAT is the question....
Preach at the top of your lungs however you feel, but understand we have the right to disagree without being berated.
In a 60+ mph rear end crash, my wife suffered a subdural hematoma on the front of her brain. There was NO external IMPACT involved, just brain and skull. The interesting fact was that there was just as much concern with a possible HEART INJURY due to the compression of the seat belt across her chest.
I've bounced off the ground with helmet on a number of times after going down while riding. I've also face planted after tripping while in running races with nothing between face and pavement. As far as I know, I suffered no brain injuries so far, but had I not been wearing a helmet during my bicycle crashes I am not sure I would not have had a concussion.
Whether 'tis wiser to crash and burn with noggin directly impacting terra firma, or what-ever,
Or to have some barrier between, THAT is the question....
Preach at the top of your lungs however you feel, but understand we have the right to disagree without being berated.
In a 60+ mph rear end crash, my wife suffered a subdural hematoma on the front of her brain. There was NO external IMPACT involved, just brain and skull. The interesting fact was that there was just as much concern with a possible HEART INJURY due to the compression of the seat belt across her chest.
I've bounced off the ground with helmet on a number of times after going down while riding. I've also face planted after tripping while in running races with nothing between face and pavement. As far as I know, I suffered no brain injuries so far, but had I not been wearing a helmet during my bicycle crashes I am not sure I would not have had a concussion.
As always, "I crash a lot, so you should wear a helmet" is unpersuasive to thoughtful adults.
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One clear benefit, at least for me (and I'm sure it's been pointed out already), is that a helmet allows me to
-mount an extra pair of lights
-at a level or height easily seen
-and allows me to point the head light in any direction I choose.
-mount an extra pair of lights
-at a level or height easily seen
-and allows me to point the head light in any direction I choose.
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You know that might actually be a detriment to the useful injury mitigation purpose of helmets, yes? It might help you not get in a crash in the first place, but anything attached to a helmet compromises its injury protection abilities...
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In addition the helmet is very convenient for attaching an MP3 player and earbuds - the cables don't get in the way that way, and cannot fall and get tangled up. I consider that an important safety feature.
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Two points: Firstly, "It's inevitable, so you should do it now" might be the worst argument I have ever encountered on the subject. Secondly, freedom is winning on quite a few fronts in this country, at the moment. You'd do well to ask pot smokers or firearm* carriers about the "inevitability" of loss of liberty before making such bold predictions.
*Let me take yet another opportunity to complain about "***" being censored on this forum. After more than twenty years of participation on online forums it remains the most childish rule I have ever seen.
*Let me take yet another opportunity to complain about "***" being censored on this forum. After more than twenty years of participation on online forums it remains the most childish rule I have ever seen.
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Helmets might also be used for mounting religious statuettes, medallions or stickers; good way to double down on faith. You can't be too safe, eh?
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Two points: Firstly, "It's inevitable, so you should do it now" might be the worst argument I have ever encountered on the subject. Secondly, freedom is winning on quite a few fronts in this country, at the moment. You'd do well to ask pot smokers or firearm* carriers about the "inevitability" of loss of liberty before making such bold predictions.
*Let me take yet another opportunity to complain about "***" being censored on this forum. After more than twenty years of participation on online forums it remains the most childish rule I have ever seen.
*Let me take yet another opportunity to complain about "***" being censored on this forum. After more than twenty years of participation on online forums it remains the most childish rule I have ever seen.
So just relax and remember, you can still say ass.
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Mods have to do a lot of cleaning, moving to P&R and banning because of use of the g word. I imagine the ban came about because of a couple of members who over used it in order to make every thread a guns debate.
So just relax and remember, you can still say ass.
So just relax and remember, you can still say ass.
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Although for the sake of those not reading the article, the comment was just an aside in a case having nothing to do with cycling and doesn't create binding authority. In fact, as the author goes on to say, the aside is not even true in Illinois state law.
It appears that warrior4130 is wrong about the law in the majority of states, and his certainty misguided.
It appears that warrior4130 is wrong about the law in the majority of states, and his certainty misguided.
In my state, besides those on military bases, the helmet laws are all at county and city levels. It's illegal to ride helmetless right here, but it's OK about 6 miles north of here. As you travel north you encounter many stretches of road between 5 and 35 miles long where helmets are required.
One municipality repealed its helmet law a couple of years ago. I'd like to see that continue as a trend instead of more restrictive legislation.
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One issue I'm encountering is that the additional weight of two lights on the helmet is a bit more noticeable than I had anticipated. I'm using a cree flashlight separate mount and a pdx tail light with rubber mount.
Perhaps I'll just get used to it in a few more rides' time.
Perhaps I'll just get used to it in a few more rides' time.
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One issue I'm encountering is that the additional weight of two lights on the helmet is a bit more noticeable than I had anticipated. I'm using a cree flashlight separate mount and a pdx tail light with rubber mount.
Perhaps I'll just get used to it in a few more rides' time.
Perhaps I'll just get used to it in a few more rides' time.
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I still think that as very young children the anti helmet types were scared by a turtle and have been damaged for life.
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I am not here to get into the debate at all, I just thought there might be people here with experiences with the Giro Air attack helm with shield. I'd like to know how it does for every day riding as it's what I'm leaning towards picking up for myself.
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Move along. Nothing to see here.
Seriously though, I've not tried it. It looks interesting.
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You're probably better off asking the question on the road forum, as long as the mods allow it. Despite the number of posts on this subforum, it's populated mostly by malcontents who don't actually ride bicycles.