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Old 09-28-21, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I showed that to my wife who would really like a new bike. In her case, it would be more like $8400. At first, she said, "WTF!" but about ten seconds later, she said, "I could handle that."
Hey, it's cheaper than a new top-of-the-line Aethos.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
The problem is, if she out-climbs me and drops my fat butt on a daily basis on her 7 year old Spec Amira with 30,000 miles, I'd never see her again on a new bike.
Then maybe she'll suggest that you get one, too!
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My Tuesday ride friends are all out of town on various riding adventures so I rode alone today on my old mtb loop. It was socked in with fog/marine layer so I got soaked on the climb. Put on everything I had for the descent but still got a little cold. A long time since I felt that sensation but it's supposed to go back up near 100 this weekend.

The Strava talk reminded me of being chastised this past Saturday by a guy for not having electronics on my bike. "Oh, just get a Garmin, at least, because yada yada yada". Told him I wasn't interested and he was shocked. "What about your heartrate monitor"? Told him I didn't have one of those, either. "WHAT???" He didn't believe me until I insisted.

Sunday I did my 2 hour spin around the bike path and there is a little park with water and bathrooms and I like to stop there and sit on a bench and have a snack. Another geezer was beginning his ride and he stopped to inform me that I should just keep going because if I sat for a while it would be harder to get going again. He looked at my bike and said something like "You probably know this already". I wanted to tell him I would be ok but he wouldn't shut up until he left.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
We are still celebrating Christmas, just in a different manner this year.

Both kids are adults and have everything they want and/or need, so we talked to them to see if they would like to take a family trip together instead of doing Christmas gifts. They said they would like to do so since this will likely be our last "family" vacation with just the four of us (daughter is getting married next fall).

So, we are planning a week in Sedona together as our Christmas present to each other.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
The problem is, if she out-climbs me and drops my fat butt on a daily basis on her 7 year old Spec Amira with 30,000 miles, I'd never see her again on a new bike.
She should do it. That would be awesome.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Then maybe she'll suggest that you get one, too!
He just got one.
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Originally Posted by big john
My Tuesday ride friends are all out of town on various riding adventures so I rode alone today on my old mtb loop. It was socked in with fog/marine layer so I got soaked on the climb. Put on everything I had for the descent but still got a little cold. A long time since I felt that sensation but it's supposed to go back up near 100 this weekend.

The Strava talk reminded me of being chastised this past Saturday by a guy for not having electronics on my bike. "Oh, just get a Garmin, at least, because yada yada yada". Told him I wasn't interested and he was shocked. "What about your heartrate monitor"? Told him I didn't have one of those, either. "WHAT???" He didn't believe me until I insisted.

Sunday I did my 2 hour spin around the bike path and there is a little park with water and bathrooms and I like to stop there and sit on a bench and have a snack. Another geezer was beginning his ride and he stopped to inform me that I should just keep going because if I sat for a while it would be harder to get going again. He looked at my bike and said something like "You probably know this already". I wanted to tell him I would be ok but he wouldn't shut up until he left.
On my C&V bikes, I really like the 'clean bar and stem' aesthetic, so I initially rode them without my Garmin*. Now that I have the Varia, though, it feels irresponsible to ride without it.

* I'm still a data junkie, so when I rode without it on the bars, I stuffed it in my jersey.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
You spent several posts attempting to demonstrate that the distance from you to any ocean was too large for you to be on ANY coast. Maps and all.
Find one.
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Originally Posted by big john
He just got one.
Another one. A 2022 R5.

Come on, now, N+1 isn't difficult math.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
We are still celebrating Christmas, just in a different manner this year.

Both kids are adults and have everything they want and/or need, so we talked to them to see if they would like to take a family trip together instead of doing Christmas gifts. They said they would like to do so since this will likely be our last "family" vacation with just the four of us (daughter is getting married next fall).

So, we are planning a week in Sedona together as our Christmas present to each other.
I meant decorations, not presents.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
You spent several posts attempting to demonstrate that the distance from you to any ocean was too large for you to be on ANY coast. Maps and all.

WRT 'assigning' people from the Central and Mountain time zones, maybe we should let them choose whose team they want to be on?
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Find one.
Tell you what - let's ask the group.

HEY!!! Anyone else remember VV insisting he didn't live on the East Coast?
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Originally Posted by big john
The Strava talk reminded me of being chastised this past Saturday by a guy for not having electronics on my bike. "Oh, just get a Garmin, at least, because yada yada yada". Told him I wasn't interested and he was shocked. "What about your heartrate monitor"? Told him I didn't have one of those, either. "WHAT???" He didn't believe me until I insisted.
A clean cockpit is paramount.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Tell you what - let's ask the group.

HEY!!! Anyone else remember VV insisting he didn't live on the East Coast?
I'm not new here.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Then maybe she'll suggest that you get one, too!
I doubt that would do any good. I outweigh her by 75-80 pounds and she doesn't have near the health problems.

Seriously, she's very savvy about bikes and what she likes, make that picky about bikes. I'd have to drive or fly to Colorado so she could go hands-on with it before she would commit to buying one. Charts and graphs and a three-part harmony just wouldn't cut it for her.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
We are still celebrating Christmas, just in a different manner this year.

Both kids are adults and have everything they want and/or need, so we talked to them to see if they would like to take a family trip together instead of doing Christmas gifts. They said they would like to do so since this will likely be our last "family" vacation with just the four of us (daughter is getting married next fall).

So, we are planning a week in Sedona together as our Christmas present to each other.
Back in 1967, my parents planned the last big family vacation for all 8 of us. We drove from PA up to Montreal, in the 66 Ford wagon with a pop-up camper. But my oldest sister threw them a curve and got married before we left, so it was just 7 of us.
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He just got one.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
A clean cockpit is paramount.
What if you have a Paramount, but the cockpit isn't clean?
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
So?
Excellent point.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I doubt that would do any good. I outweigh her by 75-80 pounds and she doesn't have near the health problems.

Seriously, she's very savvy about bikes and what she likes, make that picky about bikes. I'd have to drive or fly to Colorado so she could go hands-on with it before she would commit to buying one. Charts and graphs and a three-part harmony just wouldn't cut it for her.
At that price, the airfare and hotel are only a small fraction of the total cost. It's almost like buying a car you haven't driven.
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I was in Excel a few years when they were closing out the Cervelos at the end of the season. There was someone there from Wyoming on a test ride.

Fun trip for you and the wife.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
At that price, the airfare and hotel are only a small fraction of the total cost. It's almost like buying a car you haven't driven.
You guys are all so helpful.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Another one. A 2022 R5.

Come on, now, N+1 isn't difficult math.
You don't have to convince me but Mrs.Trainsnorter might have a different view.
Long ago when I was married to a cyclist we alternated N+1. She didn't play by the rule though when she gifted herself a new Juliana full squish bike just before she left. She stole my turn.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
You spent several posts attempting to demonstrate that the distance from you to any ocean was too large for you to be on ANY coast. Maps and all.
That is not my recollection either. I recollect him insisting he is quasi-east coast, even though he is clearly land locked like a mf.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
So?

Can't argue with that.
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