Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos
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There was an inaccuracy in my completely nonsensical comment? Your right, I just realized that I don't like bikes at all. I have seen the light. I'm selling all my bikes tomorrow. Wanna buy a San Rensho seat post?
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Holy crap. This thread just got ridiculous. Six jours why don't you just buy up all the classic bikes that people are ****ing up so it doesn't happen and stay out of this thread if it pisses you off so much?
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Or better still, we could set up a "fighting" thread where everybody with a grudge could meet and complain and fight instead of holding up more interesting conversation.
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Six jours, why can't you stay away from this thread?
You don't like it, we don't like you.
Ciao.
Anyone got a nicely updated road bike to post?
You don't like it, we don't like you.
Ciao.
Anyone got a nicely updated road bike to post?
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Six jours, Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about someone fitting modern parts on a classic bike, and keeping the original component group around just in case. I am sure that probably happens, the fixed crowd seem to practice that method from time to time.
I am not trying to fan your flame here, just an honest, curious question.
I am not trying to fan your flame here, just an honest, curious question.
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So, "bonechilling", is that complaint about ad hominem a general principle, or somewhat more selective? Right...
As for it being "pretty simple" to return to the original components, when was the last time you saw a San Rensho seatpost for sale? Once it's been "parted out", it's extremely unlikely to be replaced. Yet another essentially irreplaceable bicycle "improved" with modern cookie-cutter parts.
But I think the "making it more practical and functional" line sums it all up: you folks honestly don't think much of classic bikes and really do believe you're "making them better". I think you guys are missing out.
As for it being "pretty simple" to return to the original components, when was the last time you saw a San Rensho seatpost for sale? Once it's been "parted out", it's extremely unlikely to be replaced. Yet another essentially irreplaceable bicycle "improved" with modern cookie-cutter parts.
But I think the "making it more practical and functional" line sums it all up: you folks honestly don't think much of classic bikes and really do believe you're "making them better". I think you guys are missing out.
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Sentimentality over function? The previous owner of my '74 Fender Precision Bass stripped the original finish and tossed the original pickguard and pickup to replace them with, ahem, upgrades. It's now worth about 1/4 of what it would be worth in unaltered condition. I wish he'd had a sentimental attachment to the bass as it was and left it alone.
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Sentimentality over function? The previous owner of my '74 Fender Precision Bass stripped the original finish and tossed the original pickguard and pickup to replace them with, ahem, upgrades. It's now worth about 1/4 of what it would be worth in unaltered condition. I wish he'd had a sentimental attachment to the bass as it was and left it alone.
I bought my 78 Raleigh Pro as a frameset and I am going to build it up with what I have, so some of these modern / classic mixes may have started in this fashion.
Miamijim sold a frame on ebay awhile back. The buyer sent him an email later to show pictures of all the braze-ons he hacked off so lovingly when he saved it.
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Sentimentality over function? The previous owner of my '74 Fender Precision Bass stripped the original finish and tossed the original pickguard and pickup to replace them with, ahem, upgrades. It's now worth about 1/4 of what it would be worth in unaltered condition. I wish he'd had a sentimental attachment to the bass as it was and left it alone.
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Ah, so at least some of you do realize that there's value in unaltered originals. Maybe that's why there's so much anger and insult. It's like a toddler getting caught doing something he knows he's not supposed to.
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Six jours, Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about someone fitting modern parts on a classic bike, and keeping the original component group around just in case. I am sure that probably happens, the fixed crowd seem to practice that method from time to time.
I am not trying to fan your flame here, just an honest, curious question.
I am not trying to fan your flame here, just an honest, curious question.
And yes, you all own your bikes and get to do whatever you like with them. The same, however, can be said for the guys over on the SS/FG thread who are hacking derailleur tabs off of 50's Cinellis. They're convinced they are "improving" them too, and this thread is very similar in attitude if not practice. Few bikes on this thread have been irreparably harmed -- although again, few will ever be returned to their original state -- but the ideological seperation between this stuff and the derailleur tab choppers is only a matter of degree.
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Kinda what I figured, nice of you to admit it.
I feel sorry for you - you must have so little that's worthwhile in your life that you've got the time and inclination to piss people off on purpose. Sad, really.
Leaving yet?
I think I'll go take a picture of my wife's 80's Marinoni with 600 + STI just to get this thing back on track.
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You poor kids still all worked up over all this? Honestly, I'm feeling kind of bad about it. So just to prove there are no hard feelings, here's a link to a couple of irreplaceable racing bikes from the 50s and 60s. I'm thinking Krylon, 105, and deep Vs, but then, what do I know?
Have fun!
Have fun!
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I'll try to bring the thread back to the title subject..........
1983 Centurion Turbo, a tribute to the acme-supply, who raced this same frame for years.
1988 Centuron Ironman Master, from Little Darwin.
1988 Centurion Ironman Carbon, (Campy) from Otto Rax (frame, Ergos, and enthusiasm)
1989 Centurion Ironman Master, from Ken Enright, who sold an identical one to j mazz
1988 Centurion Ironman Carbon, Shimano 600/Ultegra, including STI's, frame help from riva, heads up by Spinz.
Spinz told me in mid-morning of the CL find, and within 4 hours, riva and the seller were making arrangements,
and a few days later, he shipped it to me. It doesn't get any better.
1989 Centurion Dave Scott Ironman Expert. Frame and FD/RD are original. Not much else.
1983 Centurion Turbo, a tribute to the acme-supply, who raced this same frame for years.
1988 Centuron Ironman Master, from Little Darwin.
1988 Centurion Ironman Carbon, (Campy) from Otto Rax (frame, Ergos, and enthusiasm)
1989 Centurion Ironman Master, from Ken Enright, who sold an identical one to j mazz
1988 Centurion Ironman Carbon, Shimano 600/Ultegra, including STI's, frame help from riva, heads up by Spinz.
Spinz told me in mid-morning of the CL find, and within 4 hours, riva and the seller were making arrangements,
and a few days later, he shipped it to me. It doesn't get any better.
1989 Centurion Dave Scott Ironman Expert. Frame and FD/RD are original. Not much else.
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Ok...so. I gots the Dura-Ace goods mocked up on mees Swin Cirkit from thereabouts MCMXXCVII.
Doez little things that be on da down low tube be sittinz to high so I be flippin dem on the different sidz yo to make em like bees a little lowerz and covert n stuff. Da republican one be non adjustablz cuz it goes 'click' 'click' notz turns turns lke da other one...
What I do now?
Doez little things that be on da down low tube be sittinz to high so I be flippin dem on the different sidz yo to make em like bees a little lowerz and covert n stuff. Da republican one be non adjustablz cuz it goes 'click' 'click' notz turns turns lke da other one...
What I do now?
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Ok...so. I gots the Dura-Ace goods mocked up on mees Swin Cirkit from thereabouts XXCIIX.
Doez little things that be on da down low tube be sittinz to high so I be flippin dem on the different sidz yo to make em like bees a little lowerz and covert n stuff. Da republican one be non adjustablz cuz it goes 'click' 'click' notz turns turns lke da other one...
What I do now?
Doez little things that be on da down low tube be sittinz to high so I be flippin dem on the different sidz yo to make em like bees a little lowerz and covert n stuff. Da republican one be non adjustablz cuz it goes 'click' 'click' notz turns turns lke da other one...
What I do now?
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Panasonic Team America hodge podge
Here's my '88 Team America Custom. A mix of: 7 speed Shimano cassette, Campy 8 speed shifters, 10 speed derailleur and a SRAM 9 speed chain. Amazingly, it works quite well. I've got a total of $30 in it from parts sold off the bike and stuff I had in the garage.