For the love of English 3 speeds...
10-17-17, 06:24 PM
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To Dweenk, that's the bike i'm working on although that one is in better shape.
1st pic. I think the rims will clean up very well. Only broke 2 spokes and 4 nuts, not bad for 65 year old rims.
next pics. So I thought, why not take apart the 49 rims. I view 4 utube videos on how to take apart a S/A aw hub none of them like this:
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once again sorry for the flip phone images
1st pic. I think the rims will clean up very well. Only broke 2 spokes and 4 nuts, not bad for 65 year old rims.
next pics. So I thought, why not take apart the 49 rims. I view 4 utube videos on how to take apart a S/A aw hub none of them like this:
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1017171749-01.jpg
1017171751-00.jpg
1017171752-00.jpg
1017171754-00.jpg
once again sorry for the flip phone images
10-17-17, 06:29 PM
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steam·punk
a genre of science fiction that has a historical setting and typically features steam-powered machinery rather than advanced technology.
a style of design and fashion that combines historical elements with anachronistic technological features inspired by science fiction.
"the essence of steampunk is homage to vintage fashion with a modern, sassy twist"
you see steampunk at thinks like the Make Faire
think lots of victorian brass filagree and details, carbide lamps, etc
Thanks for the explain!
a genre of science fiction that has a historical setting and typically features steam-powered machinery rather than advanced technology.
a style of design and fashion that combines historical elements with anachronistic technological features inspired by science fiction.
"the essence of steampunk is homage to vintage fashion with a modern, sassy twist"
you see steampunk at thinks like the Make Faire
think lots of victorian brass filagree and details, carbide lamps, etc
Thanks for the explain!
10-17-17, 06:29 PM
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Oh...I see it now. Never seen that one before. Must be from before my time
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10-17-17, 07:29 PM
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# 14302 post has the cable ends I have used. If anyone has the brakes I showed, would those be the ones to use. When I tried the others most would not fit where the ends go.
10-17-17, 09:15 PM
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Oh sorry, I see now. I missed the picture of the brake levers. I have a pair of levers just like those in my box of salvaged bike stuff. I just checked them with a modern cable and I think regular barrel shaped brake cable ends would work OK in these.
10-18-17, 07:50 AM
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To Dweenk, that's the bike i'm working on although that one is in better shape.
1st pic. I think the rims will clean up very well. Only broke 2 spokes and 4 nuts, not bad for 65 year old rims.
next pics. So I thought, why not take apart the 49 rims. I view 4 utube videos on how to take apart a S/A aw hub none of them like this:
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once again sorry for the flip phone images
1st pic. I think the rims will clean up very well. Only broke 2 spokes and 4 nuts, not bad for 65 year old rims.
next pics. So I thought, why not take apart the 49 rims. I view 4 utube videos on how to take apart a S/A aw hub none of them like this:
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Attachment 584814
once again sorry for the flip phone images
10-18-17, 10:07 AM
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Yeah, you have the old style AW hub with the cog threaded on the driver. This one also has the two flats to remove the rest of the hub from the shell instead of the notches which means you'll need a spanner wide enough to fit and can't use a simple punch. You even have all of the original gun barrel blue nuts and washers. Very nice! Thanks for the update.
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10-18-17, 11:18 AM
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Oh, you've got it apart. All done then. It looks like it will clean up nicely. Now you should be able to pry the caps off the wheel bearings with a screwdriver. There's one on the drive side driver and one on the other side in the hub shell. Nice work! The only thing that looks odd to me is the the clutch spring is usually wound so the top coil is square. I guess it doesn't matter, but it looks like it might not be an original part.
10-18-17, 11:19 AM
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Thanks. I might try one of the modern cables again. Right now I will run the Rudge with these. I like the brass ring that cradles the lead end. The modern ends I tried were too big for the cable slot.
10-18-17, 11:35 AM
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On the left side (?) is it righty tighty or righty loosey? Which way is it threaded? The rest is apart. The shifter is going to need work. The four stops are H, N, L, and B. I thought that it was a 3 but it's a B.
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here's an ad for the new shifter in Dec. 1949
1949 sa ad by Billy Bones, on Flickr
10-18-17, 12:32 PM
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So here's another feature question. This stem has a different shape than the ones I'm used to seeing. It's necked down to the clamp, stamped with "patent number" instead of Sir Walter and somebody took the time to grind the joint smooth at the back. A bit less boxy and more elegant than the later versions I think. I've never had a Raleigh with this style stem. If anybody here has one, I'd love to know the hub date. Thanks
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10-18-17, 04:51 PM
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The only thing I see left to take apart in the photos are the wheel bearing retainer caps. But, this hub is older than the ones I'm familiar with. A person that would know better than me is the post right above. @Salubrious He has a 1935 Sports and just came through with the answer to a question I had about a stem. No AW hub I've ever worked on had any LH threads.
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10-18-17, 05:02 PM
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Leave it there, clean it in place.I think they can be removed, but they are really easy to clean leaving them in place. I haven't read or heard of anyone removing them, even for a complete strip-down clean & re-build.
I enjoy pulling these hubs apart and re-building them.
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Leave it there. This is the 'Left hand Ball cup' you're talking about? Think of it as the fixed cup on your bottom bracket, only more so Leave it there, clean it in place.
I think they can be removed, but they are really easy to clean leaving them in place. I haven't read or heard of anyone removing them, even for a complete strip-down clean & re-build.
I enjoy pulling these hubs apart and re-building them.
Leave it there, clean it in place.I think they can be removed, but they are really easy to clean leaving them in place. I haven't read or heard of anyone removing them, even for a complete strip-down clean & re-build.
I enjoy pulling these hubs apart and re-building them.
10-18-17, 05:48 PM
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This is DL1 in MPLS CL are asking $100 https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/h...281396445.html
This one is just a couple miles from the house.
This one is just a couple miles from the house.
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This is DL1 in MPLS CL are asking $100 https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/h...281396445.html
10-18-17, 07:20 PM
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Haven't had quite as much time w/ the new '51 as I'd like, but I have ticked several little things off my "to-do" list and she's riding very nicely!!!
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Marfield brand? This one looks like a very clean mid to late 60's Raleigh product in Chicago area.
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Schwinn used the lever and swivel link system, which I believe they partially copied from British designs.
The levers that you show I also have a pair of on a 1941 New World. They resemble the much more expensive Schwinn levers and use the same general system, at least enough for purposes of rehabilitating the New World. For $20 I was able to buy levers that look enough like Schwinn levers for this project. A pair of original Schwinn levers is easily $100+.
These post-war English-made lever and swivel parts seem to like the basic, generic "mushroom" ended cables. I actually use the generic "Bell Pit Crew" cables on my Schwinn and English levers of this design.
I've also seen the levers you show on Schwinn Varsity and Continental "touring" configuration bikes from the 1960s.
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1953 Eaton Commander 3 Speed
An interesting bike for sale here in Toronto.
A 1953 Eatons Commander. Built by Hercules with a 3 speed Herc-u-matic hub and shifter.
Priced at $60.00.
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A 1953 Eatons Commander. Built by Hercules with a 3 speed Herc-u-matic hub and shifter.
Priced at $60.00.
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