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Hmm I'm not sure I understand what is being argued. Anyway in the midwest we're pretty used to 60 miles = 1 hour and distances are in terms of hours -- i.e. St. Louis is 4 hours away.
But I'm always caught by surprise when I travel to a place where their are hills and the roads actually have curves and just because something is 60 miles away does not mean that it takes 60 minutes to get here. Like Tennessee. Or Ireland.
Speaking of ports -- the Port of Catoosa near Tulsa is one of the most inland ports with ocean access in the U.S. The only reason I know that is because years ago I met a guy in Kansas who had bought a boat in Massachusetts and planned to sail to the gulf and eventually to the Port of Catoosa to transport it to some lake in Kansas. I have no idea if he made it. As I recall he was not actually an experienced sailor.
But I'm always caught by surprise when I travel to a place where their are hills and the roads actually have curves and just because something is 60 miles away does not mean that it takes 60 minutes to get here. Like Tennessee. Or Ireland.
Speaking of ports -- the Port of Catoosa near Tulsa is one of the most inland ports with ocean access in the U.S. The only reason I know that is because years ago I met a guy in Kansas who had bought a boat in Massachusetts and planned to sail to the gulf and eventually to the Port of Catoosa to transport it to some lake in Kansas. I have no idea if he made it. As I recall he was not actually an experienced sailor.
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Having grown up in the Midwest, I was surprised by the proximity of cities in the NE corridor - I was used to metropolitan areas being islands in seas of not-a-whole-lot, 5+ hours distant by car.
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Hmm I'm not sure I understand what is being argued. Anyway in the midwest we're pretty used to 60 miles = 1 hour and distances are in terms of hours -- i.e. St. Louis is 4 hours away.
But I'm always caught by surprise when I travel to a place where their are hills and the roads actually have curves and just because something is 60 miles away does not mean that it takes 60 minutes to get here. Like Tennessee. Or Ireland.
But I'm always caught by surprise when I travel to a place where their are hills and the roads actually have curves and just because something is 60 miles away does not mean that it takes 60 minutes to get here. Like Tennessee. Or Ireland.
The Bike Forums historians can't seem to grasp why it took longer for settlement to spread 300 miles westward, and over this, as opposed to 80 miles in New England. I wonder how many mountain ranges they've driven their covered wagons over?
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Bike shop is taking four days to bust out a frozen brake pad retention screw. At least they are reasonably confident they can do it and do not anticipate installing a new hydraulic caliper, which I'm sure would take another week to obtain from their supplier and cost twice the online consumer rate. Took my CX bike for a gentle road workout yesterday. Wasn't bad, but it doesn't fit me like the R3 and I could feel the increased drag on the flats and downs. I'll take the fenders off if I have to ride it for another week.
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I can attest to this. Even the "High Line" (U.S. 2 corridor in MT east of the Rockies) was pretty empty BITD. I think it's a bit more developed these days thanks to oil.
One of the small towns we stayed in (Think it was Glasgow. We also stayed in a Harlem and a Malta.) had a movie theater. One guy on the trip said something like "Can you imagine having to load the family in a car and drive 60 miles just to see a movie?"
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I rode across North Dakota and later spent another week doing a loop tour (supported) there.
I can attest to this. Even the "High Line" (U.S. 2 corridor in MT east of the Rockies) was pretty empty BITD. I think it's a bit more developed these days thanks to oil.
One of the small towns we stayed in (Think it was Glasgow. We also stayed in a Harlem and a Malta.) had a movie theater. One guy on the trip said something like "Can you imagine having to load the family in a car and drive 60 miles just to see a movie?"
I can attest to this. Even the "High Line" (U.S. 2 corridor in MT east of the Rockies) was pretty empty BITD. I think it's a bit more developed these days thanks to oil.
One of the small towns we stayed in (Think it was Glasgow. We also stayed in a Harlem and a Malta.) had a movie theater. One guy on the trip said something like "Can you imagine having to load the family in a car and drive 60 miles just to see a movie?"
Thing is, I'd originally thought we could do kind of a slow trip both ways, but MY Mom scheduled a big family party in our honor 6 days after the START of our vacation, and HER Mom scheduled a similar party 6 days before the END of the vacation. SO, we just got on I-80 and crossed in 4 days. Man, Nebraska was a long way across, and seemed really boring and empty!
Then, on the way back, we visited my brother in Minnesota, then took I-94 across North Dakota. Nebraska seemed exciting by comparison. Then we got on I-90 across Montana, and for the first time ever I started having serious anxiety about finding a gas station open. And I mean, starting to freak out at 1/2 tank left! For what seemed like hours we drove straight as an arrow, with one set of tail lights ahead almost reduced to a red dot, and one set of headlights behind us almost as far, and minutes passing between each car on the other side.
THAT was freaky, for a kid who grew up East of the Appalachians.
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Speaking of the Appalachians, it was them, more than the proximity to the ocean, that delayed the settlement of the second tier of states.
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Bike shop is taking four days to bust out a frozen brake pad retention screw. At least they are reasonably confident they can do it and do not anticipate installing a new hydraulic caliper, which I'm sure would take another week to obtain from their supplier and cost twice the online consumer rate. Took my CX bike for a gentle road workout yesterday. Wasn't bad, but it doesn't fit me like the R3 and I could feel the increased drag on the flats and downs. I'll take the fenders off if I have to ride it for another week.
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When Mrs. GeneJockey BECAME Mrs. GeneJockey back in 1988, I had been working for 6 years for a company that had a 'Sabbatical' program, so that in your 7th year of employment, you got an extra 6 week vacation. So, we used that to go Back East to visit family, since only a handful had come out to SF for our wedding. Instead of flying and renting a car while ours sat unused, we drove my 1986 GTI across America.
Thing is, I'd originally thought we could do kind of a slow trip both ways, but MY Mom scheduled a big family party in our honor 6 days after the START of our vacation, and HER Mom scheduled a similar party 6 days before the END of the vacation. SO, we just got on I-80 and crossed in 4 days. Man, Nebraska was a long way across, and seemed really boring and empty!
Then, on the way back, we visited my brother in Minnesota, then took I-94 across North Dakota. Nebraska seemed exciting by comparison. Then we got on I-90 across Montana, and for the first time ever I started having serious anxiety about finding a gas station open. And I mean, starting to freak out at 1/2 tank left!
Thing is, I'd originally thought we could do kind of a slow trip both ways, but MY Mom scheduled a big family party in our honor 6 days after the START of our vacation, and HER Mom scheduled a similar party 6 days before the END of the vacation. SO, we just got on I-80 and crossed in 4 days. Man, Nebraska was a long way across, and seemed really boring and empty!
Then, on the way back, we visited my brother in Minnesota, then took I-94 across North Dakota. Nebraska seemed exciting by comparison. Then we got on I-90 across Montana, and for the first time ever I started having serious anxiety about finding a gas station open. And I mean, starting to freak out at 1/2 tank left!
Well, it's not quite that bad but if you're accustomed to a 500 mile tank...
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When I was in the car biz we used a specialty machinist for removing broken or rusted bolts. The guy was truly a miracle worker. He used some kind of grinders to remove the offending fastener. I don't know if it would be appropriate in your case but it might be worth asking around about such a service in your area.
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