Most expensive vs "ultimate" touring bikes
01-12-17, 04:20 PM
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I spent all summer making myself a CF chaincase. Not perfect because of a big crank hole, but will keep the rain off. It is the strongest by far however.
Besides that I don't like the belt's wavy mimic a chain design. The square grooves on Harleys looks far better to me.
Besides that I don't like the belt's wavy mimic a chain design. The square grooves on Harleys looks far better to me.
01-13-17, 09:08 PM
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In re electronic shifting, one convenience could be a single control where rider selects gear # & it shifts front and/or rear automatically. Also, how about brake-by-wire hydraulic brakes?
For frames titanium is nice but a bit pricey. If there was one improvement for touring frames I'd like to see front & rear elastomer suspension which would work well with affordable & light aluminum frames.
For frames titanium is nice but a bit pricey. If there was one improvement for touring frames I'd like to see front & rear elastomer suspension which would work well with affordable & light aluminum frames.
01-13-17, 09:11 PM
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when you get to France , drop by the Berthoud HQ, there they will build a made to measure bike of your dreams ,
if you dream of those.
if you dream of those.
01-13-17, 09:31 PM
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I was in Hartford last weekend at the Cyclocross Nationals and Shimano just came out with an electronic MTB group that has that. Works with 3x11 and 2x11. One shifter, front and rear derailleurs shift as needed to avoid cross chaining. It was on display, I didn't see any bikes using it. Shimano rep told me that although competitors are moving away from triple and even double chainrings, they still see a need for triples.
01-13-17, 09:46 PM
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I'm thinking all we have to do is pedal. The electronics will do all the shifting AND steering. That would make touring really fun like those stationary bike bikes at the gym! Except after 6 hours of pedaling you stop and you're in another gym.
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01-14-17, 02:40 AM
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Yes indeed because... shifting gears on a tour bike has been soooo stressful up until now.
Can't someone make this easier because mah finga's is plum wore out.
Can't someone make this easier because mah finga's is plum wore out.
01-14-17, 07:01 AM
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On two of my derailleur bikes with triples, I changed the tooth count on one or two of my chainrings, if I had some computerized system where it shifted my front and back for me, it would likely get it all wrong on bikes where I used chainrings of alternative sizes. Same issue if I changed cassette sizing.
And I avoid using the two most cross chained gears for each chainring, for example on the middle ring I avoid using the largest and smallest rear sprockets. With my eight speed cassette and triple front, that means I only use 18 out of my 24 possible gears. But I am quite sure that a manufacturer would use all 24 gears because if they did not and their competitor did, their competitor would brag how many more gears their bikes had.
That shifter would likely be programed for a specific crankset and specific cassette. I really like the ability to switch things around. On my rando bike I am using a Shimano XT M739 rear derailleur, Sram 11/32 eight speed cassette, a Campy triple, some other brand of front derailleur, Campy brifter for the rear and vintage Huret downtube friction front shifter with Tektro front brake lever.
But for those bikers that fix their own flat tires but leave all other bike work up to the bike shop, then I can see that such an electronic system would work fine because they are never going to use a component other than one that was part of that specific gruppo. And once one component breaks and is no longer available, then the whole bike becomes a pile of used parts and they buy a new bike. I know a couple bikers just like that too.
01-14-17, 07:04 AM
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If the electronic steering hits bumps and potholes, you might spill your drink.
01-14-17, 07:37 AM
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01-14-17, 07:51 AM
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no need for that.......VR goggles now with blueteeth connectivity
to your very own tourbot!
to your very own tourbot!
01-14-17, 08:16 AM
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01-14-17, 08:21 AM
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no need for that.......VR goggles now with blueteeth connectivity
to your very own tourbot!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT3vfSQePcs
to your very own tourbot!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT3vfSQePcs
01-14-17, 08:43 PM
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I was in Hartford last weekend at the Cyclocross Nationals and Shimano just came out with an electronic MTB group that has that. Works with 3x11 and 2x11. One shifter, front and rear derailleurs shift as needed to avoid cross chaining. It was on display, I didn't see any bikes using it. Shimano rep told me that although competitors are moving away from triple and even double chainrings, they still see a need for triples.
Maybe Shimano will cut me a royalty check!
I like my barcons OK, just kinda fun to think about new tech possibilities.
01-14-17, 09:07 PM
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You just described a non-electronic version of my Rohloff.
On two of my derailleur bikes with triples, I changed the tooth count on one or two of my chainrings, if I had some computerized system where it shifted my front and back for me, it would likely get it all wrong on bikes where I used chainrings of alternative sizes. Same issue if I changed cassette sizing.
And I avoid using the two most cross chained gears for each chainring, for example on the middle ring I avoid using the largest and smallest rear sprockets. With my eight speed cassette and triple front, that means I only use 18 out of my 24 possible gears. But I am quite sure that a manufacturer would use all 24 gears because if they did not and their competitor did, their competitor would brag how many more gears their bikes had.
That shifter would likely be programed for a specific crankset and specific cassette. I really like the ability to switch things around. On my rando bike I am using a Shimano XT M739 rear derailleur, Sram 11/32 eight speed cassette, a Campy triple, some other brand of front derailleur, Campy brifter for the rear and vintage Huret downtube friction front shifter with Tektro front brake lever.
But for those bikers that fix their own flat tires but leave all other bike work up to the bike shop, then I can see that such an electronic system would work fine because they are never going to use a component other than one that was part of that specific gruppo. And once one component breaks and is no longer available, then the whole bike becomes a pile of used parts and they buy a new bike. I know a couple bikers just like that too.
On two of my derailleur bikes with triples, I changed the tooth count on one or two of my chainrings, if I had some computerized system where it shifted my front and back for me, it would likely get it all wrong on bikes where I used chainrings of alternative sizes. Same issue if I changed cassette sizing.
And I avoid using the two most cross chained gears for each chainring, for example on the middle ring I avoid using the largest and smallest rear sprockets. With my eight speed cassette and triple front, that means I only use 18 out of my 24 possible gears. But I am quite sure that a manufacturer would use all 24 gears because if they did not and their competitor did, their competitor would brag how many more gears their bikes had.
That shifter would likely be programed for a specific crankset and specific cassette. I really like the ability to switch things around. On my rando bike I am using a Shimano XT M739 rear derailleur, Sram 11/32 eight speed cassette, a Campy triple, some other brand of front derailleur, Campy brifter for the rear and vintage Huret downtube friction front shifter with Tektro front brake lever.
But for those bikers that fix their own flat tires but leave all other bike work up to the bike shop, then I can see that such an electronic system would work fine because they are never going to use a component other than one that was part of that specific gruppo. And once one component breaks and is no longer available, then the whole bike becomes a pile of used parts and they buy a new bike. I know a couple bikers just like that too.
01-15-17, 03:33 AM
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01-15-17, 08:18 PM
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01-15-17, 09:31 PM
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