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Old 02-28-22, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize2
Today years old. I'm seeing that around. It must be a thing. 37 years ago I was tickling the end of my fully dropped out phase(Turn on. Tune in. Drop out) and a year later would be in my final relationship.
I am hep to all the cool cats and their crazy jive.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I did the full length of Latigo Canyon Rd. The wind was strong enough to give me a few scares, luckily the borrowed Felt has narrow section wheels. If it had deep section, I would have likely been knocked over.

It got hot here too. Currently 84F. Going back to the cold east coast in 2 days.
Did you turn around and come back down the same way?
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A small number of their songs, everybody knows 'em, made a huge impression on me, but I wasn't of an age to go to a store, pick up an album and get deep in to their catalog. I think that I eventually picked up a Greatest Hits in the late 90s, but that's about the extent of it.
Also have New Adventures in Hi-Fi anniversary edition on 180 g vinyl coming. Was a big fan of REM back in the day.
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Did you turn around and come back down the same way?
Yup. Went from PCH to Kanan Dune Rd, had a snack, and went back to PCH. The wind was way scarier on the way back.
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Yup. Went from PCH to Kanan Dune Rd, had a snack, and went back to PCH. The wind was way scarier on the way back.
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Yes, I can.
Me, too.
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I get emails from all of the high-res and/or vinyl-pushing music sellers - they sent emails about the new album a little while back.
I saw a special on TV last week.
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I get emails from all of the high-res and/or vinyl-pushing music sellers - they sent emails about the new album a little while back.
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A small number of their songs, everybody knows 'em, made a huge impression on me, but I wasn't of an age to go to a store, pick up an album and get deep in to their catalog. I think that I eventually picked up a Greatest Hits in the late 90s, but that's about the extent of it.
I had a cassette, don’t remember which one. My wife is a fan. When I watched Donny Darko recently, it had some TFF songs in it.
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Here is a pic of the borrowed Felt. Can anyone explain to me why they say it’s a 61cm size? Based on the geometry (see below) I would call it a 57.


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Here is a pic of the borrowed Felt. Can anyone explain to me why they say it’s a 61cm size? Based on the geometry (see below) I would call it a 57.
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It looks like the “extension” of the seat tube to horizontal is 61cm. My Colnago is a 48 but it’s really a 52 virtual seat tube. Sloping top tubes result in whacky sizing nomenclature.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Here is a pic of the borrowed Felt. Can anyone explain to me why they say it’s a 61cm size? Based on the geometry (see below) I would call it a 57.
Why would you say 57? I don't think that anyone has referenced ST since semi/compact frames became the standard. As such, I'd say 59 or 60.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Why would you say 57? I don't think that anyone has referenced ST since semi/compact frames became the standard. As such, I'd say 59 or 60.
Living in the past? I still think of frame size as distance of ST from BB center to top.

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Plus, I do know that real frame size is measured by stack and reach anyway
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Horizontal top tube or GTFO
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Tomorrow is our last full day in LA. We are meeting our daughter for the afternoon. I have to decide whether to sleep in tomorrow or ride up Mt Baldy, which is allegedly 9.2 miles at an average 7.8%. Tough choice….
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
It looks like the “extension” of the seat tube to horizontal is 61cm. My Colnago is a 48 but it’s really a 52 virtual seat tube. Sloping top tubes result in whacky sizing nomenclature.
This. Also, mostly over 58 you don't get TT = ST anymore. For example, my Bianchi is a 61, but it has a 58.5cm (virtual) TT. I generally ride 58s, but the 928 was a 'race' frame that year, so the 58 would have put the bars too low. A 61 with sloping TT and everything fits - with a zero setback seatpost.
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Horizontal top tube or GTFO
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I'm pretty happy I wasn't riding a horizontal TT bike when my pedal spindle broke, so the jewels weren't stuffed back into my abdomen, where they hadn't been since I was a wee lad.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Living in the past? I still think of frame size as distance of ST from BB center to top.

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Plus, I do know that real frame size is measured by stack and reach anyway
That ginormous HT, plus what looks to be a 0 rise stem, and about 3-4cm of spacers makes it look really tall. What do you normally ride?
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That ginormous HT, plus what looks to be a 0 rise stem, and about 3-4cm of spacers makes it look really tall. What do you normally ride?
The Habanero is a 62 but with a 57 TT. It should really be a 64 but that would give such a long head tube that fork selection would be limited.

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Tomorrow is our last full day in LA. We are meeting our daughter for the afternoon. I have to decide whether to sleep in tomorrow or ride up Mt Baldy, which is allegedly 9.2 miles at an average 7.8%. Tough choice….
Actually if you start at the bottom of GMR it's about 25 miles to the Village, add 4 if you go to the ski lift area.

This says 22.7 with 4664 feet. Add 2000 feet to the top and add 1400 for the return trip.
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Probably gonna pass on any new Tears for Fears. Hearing that song multiple times a day for 3 or 4 years was pretty traumatic!

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I follow this guy on YouTube and he put this out on subject band today

https://youtu.be/6bU4R04fH4U

This should be in Velo Vol 's wheelhouse
Velo Vol has left the building
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I am hep to all the cool cats and their crazy jive.
Is your real name Cosmo Kramer?
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Also have New Adventures in Hi-Fi anniversary edition on 180 g vinyl coming. Was a big fan of REM back in the day.
I completely missed REM. What year did they make the scene?
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I completely missed REM. What year did they make the scene?
I first saw them in 1983 I think, with the dB's !!!
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