jadmt

any progress or updates? ya got me on the edge of my seat .

Teamdarb

Which do you want...the good news or the bad news?

jadmt

both...lol. inquiring minds want to know.

jadmt

you are killing me.....did you find out it was made of lead pipe lol....

jadmt

got my 1st 100+ mile ride in on the X0X0 was able to average 18mph.

Teamdarb

Ha. That would be an interesting find. The bad: in my size the frame top tube confirmed to be over kill for its so called "tribute". The tube itself measured different to the provided diagram. Cannot hold the company for that. What I saw is this tube is more akin to the XO5 or CB0. Which used straight gauge in slightly smaller diameter. The good: it is double butted and the paint is exactly what I thought.

The delay here is that I do not live like many people. I ride many bikes over distances year round. I will probably get back to the XOXO sometime next year. If it rusts to piece, no big deal at this point. Honestly, may peel open all the tubes. So many bikes out here being sold with words or stickers, but who knows what's really there. I guess one could start a website exposing brands' models by cutting steel frames up. I know there are a couple out there focused on carbon frames.

dphilips

Just a somewhat tangential data point regarding frame weight - I just received a Handsome Devil frameset I pre-ordered last year. Given the state of the industry and lack of activity on Handsome's media channels and the communications difficulties documented in this thread, I wasn't sure I'd ever see it. That said I'm impressed with what I got. The frame looks great, almost all of the bosses were chased and came with supplied bolts - no empty holes in the frame/fork tubes.

My 58cm Devil frame (plain jane butted 4130) and fork weigh 8lbs (~5.3 frame + ~2.6 uncut fork). Not light but inline with Handsome's claimed weights (5.06lbs for 55cm) and just a bit heavier than my 2012 Reynolds 631 60cm XOXO (~5lbs frame).

Another comparison would be to a 58cm Soma Pescadero frame that weighed a bit over 1lb less (~4.4lbs frame + ~2.4 lbs fork).

My Devil will be built up as singlespeed/fixed gear roadish bike. I'm looking forward to comparing the ride to my XOXO.

jadmt

look forward to photos. sounds fun.

jadmt

just bumping this sleeping thread up....and wondering who all has fenders on their xoxo's and what are your thoughts about them..weather has gone to crap here so thinking of fenders to extend riding. i ended up putting about 4000 miles on my xoxo this year, it got a little break as I bought a new canyon cf8 end of july but probably won't be riding that in the slop.

streetsurfer

Hey Jeff!

I'm not much help as a fair weather rider. I don't have many miles yet, but I put V/O on mine. Zero rain miles.



Cables/sleeves need trimmed. Will be changing the stem once more to a shorter height...waiting on that.

Markeologist

Insomnia and I read the whole thread…owned both since new:

jadmt

decided to go with some Nitto 105 drop bars. I liked the mustache bars but I put over 4000 miles on it so far this year and 3000 miles on my new drop bar bike and every time I do a long ride on the xoxo my ring fingers and little fingers go numb for a few days afterwards. They don't do that on my drop bars.

Teamdarb

I spotted 3 completes in a bike shop yesterday.

Bravo to putting 4k on the bike.

jadmt

did you ever get back to your frame project?

Teamdarb

I have not. I did grab a mixte headtube top lug though a few months ago. Trying to find one with the angle needed was difficult.

montclairbobbyb 

FYI, the XOXO that I once owned (and donated) is for sale on the floor at Second Life Bikes in Asbury Park, NJ. It's one of the original first generation Reynolds 631 frames (have to chuckle, I guess you'd call it "an original knock-off" )

It's in excellent condition, built up with quality components. It currently has a $700 price tag on it, which for a complete XO (I think) is a pretty good deal, considering they're getting harder to come by. Here's a photo of it when I owned it. Not 100% sure it's exactly the same, but they can fill you in on details.


If interested, please give em a call or stop by.
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jadmt

I think the first run was a nicer frame for sure.

dphilips

Finally got the Devil built up: VO 52mm fenders (dimpled at stays and fork), Gravel King 700x38 slicks (a bit undersized on CR18s), Nitto Albastache bars. Gearing options are 40x19 or 42x17 single speed, and 42x17 fixed. This is intended as a roadish bike but it handles a bit of trail too.



It does have some similar handling characteristics to the XOXO - a good thing IMO.

Teamdarb

Install a shorter offset fork and you'd have the same thing in 700c. In my opinion.

jadmt

screaming deal on some SKS Bluemels fenders. easy to install and light.