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Old 12-30-22, 06:39 PM
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Of course, but a leather one, not one of the Alfredo Binda leather-plastic-leather sandwich kind I had on my pedals.
This one may be composite. Hard to tell and I owned all kinds.
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We had a Grand Cherokee at one time. It was reliable, but there were things I didn’t like about it. I’ve enjoyed the Wranglers.
My 2000 Grand Cherokee, V8 of course, and it was a POS. Great driving car but it mechanically sucked.
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We had a Grand Cherokee at one time. It was reliable, but there were things I didn’t like about it. I’ve enjoyed the Wranglers.

I had a cherokee once. F-in Irene came and dropped a tree on it. Split it right in 2. The door light stayed on for a week before she finally died. I was never the same after that moment.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
All the theory I have is that - some condensation freezes and the fuel is blocked until it thaws. I can't speak to accuracy, but a friend of mine had those exact symptoms in upstate NY with a mostly-empty tank parked outside on a deeply sub-freezing day.
I was thinking maybe some water collected around the fuel pump motor or impeller and froze and prevented it from spinning. If there was enough water to close off a 3/8 line the car would run really bad when that water made it to the injectors, if it would even start.
I have been wrong before, though.
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Originally Posted by big john
I was thinking maybe some water collected around the fuel pump motor or impeller and froze and prevented it from spinning. If there was enough water to close off a 3/8 line the car would run really bad when that water made it to the injectors, if it would even start.
I have been wrong before, though.
What I heard (and observed) always involved mostly-empty tanks. Would your theory cover that?

Could always be a coincidence as well, of course. You know much more about cars than I do.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
My 2000 Grand Cherokee, V8 of course, and it was a POS. Great driving car but it mechanically sucked.
The V8 with full time 4WD was a sucky set up. 6 cylinder with part time was better.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
What I heard (and observed) always involved mostly-empty tanks. Would your theory cover that?

Could always be a coincidence as well, of course. You know much more about cars than I do.
Maybe. Since gasoline floats on water the water will go to the bottom and get sucked up during normal driving. I have had them come in running like crap and a fuel sample comes out milky but will separate if left to stand.

Had a guy who pissed off his girlfriend so she ran the garden hose in his gas tank. Towed in and I pulled the tank and dried it and flushed the lines and it cost him like $500. He came back a few days later and it was barely running. She did it a second time. I felt bad and gave him a discount and told him to buy a locking gas cap.
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Indeed I do. That’s what hauls the bikes and all the Home Depot type stuff. I’ve actually had a Jeep Wrangler of some type since 2012.

I actually owned a Mazda as well until I signed the title over to my son just this past Tuesday.
We had an '04 Wrangler until I sold it last year.

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Originally Posted by big john
The V8 with full time 4WD was a sucky set up. 6 cylinder with part time was better.
The 1999 and 2000 models were similar. I think Chrysler had to offer a buy back on the '99s.

Brakes were the biggest headache on the thing but it had a lot of other problems, too. Traded it in on a 2003 4-Runner.
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Originally Posted by big john
I'd be curious to hear the theory on this.
I remember selling a lot of "dry gas" as a ute in the 70's at my Dad's gas station in Western Pennsylvania. I have no idea if it worked.

Western Pennsylvania - a.k.a. birthplace of quarterbacks. Unitas, Dawson, Namath, Montana, Kelly and Marino to name a few.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
I remember selling a lot of "dry gas" as a ute in the 70's at my Dad's gas station in Western Pennsylvania. I have no idea if it worked.
It's some kind of alcohol and it allows the water to bind with the gasoline so it doesn't accumulate. It works, I always recommended it when people had water in their fuel system, even after cleaning the tank.
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We had an '04 Wrangler until I sold it last year.

'17 Willy


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Traded for '21 Ruby

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More dessert baking, because, you know, it's stillthe holidays.

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More dessert baking, because, you know, it's stillthe holidays.


whiskey and chocolate chips……..yum
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
whiskey and chocolate chips……..yum
Cookie recipe calls for both.

And then there is always the problem of what to do with the extra.
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Done. Wish I could say I did it all by myself but Mrs Bam had to get both sides of the bar tape started. I feel nothing but shame.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Cookie recipe calls for both.

And then there is always the problem of what to do with the extra.

Set things on fire?
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Set things on fire?
Surely you jest?
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Surely you jest?
maybe.
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Cookie recipe calls for both.

And then there is always the problem of what to do with the extra.
I still have a fair amount of that bourbon-flavoured brandy to take care of. Maybe I should go see if they've marked down the eggnog yet.
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Cookie recipe calls for both.

And then there is always the problem of what to do with the extra.
It’s only a problem when you run out…
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It’s only a problem when you run out…
Prolly not going to be a problem.

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Salted chocolate chip cookies made with rye flour, bourbon, and other things.

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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Prolly not going to be a problem.

You been making some Skratch margaritas?
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