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That place is really starting to grow on me. I'd want to totally scrap the living quarters they built in there, looks like maybe 7' ceilings with even lower beams, yuck. I have no idea what it would cost to have that trailer hauled to the dump, $1000 maybe? And yeah, I'd totally go with a proper septic setup.
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I was looking at a house in the same county where I grew up. The house itself had almost certainly been built by the same builder who built The Ancestral Home. It looked to have been build off the same basic blueprint, with a few modifications. I obsessed over it for a couple weeks. A couple things put me off of it - apart from it being (then) 8 years before I planned to retire - the heat was oil, the water was from a well, and the sewer was a septic system. That's a little more owner responsibility than I want to undertake in my 70s.
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There have been things that can kill you or F you up for as long as we've been alive. Flooding has been around forever. Same with fire, tornadoes, hurricanes, massive snowfalls, etc., etc. People have been dying from that stuff for as long as you and I have been alive.
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I'm a believer in the effect mankind has had on the climates of our world, but it has been going on for a very long time. Carbon emissions is not a new thing, and our current emissions, while not helping the big picture, are not going to change our climate over night in a significant manner. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be more responsible than we've been in the past 100 years or so.
There have been lots of climate changes over the life of the planet. One such event wiped out the dinosaurs, but that took a very long time.
GJ and I will be gone long before the climate can kill us. Weather might, but so might illness, injury, accident, or many other things.
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That place is really starting to grow on me. I'd want to totally scrap the living quarters they built in there, looks like maybe 7' ceilings with even lower beams, yuck. I have no idea what it would cost to have that trailer hauled to the dump, $1000 maybe? And yeah, I'd totally go with a proper septic setup.
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Yeah, and now there's this in addition to those, and exacerbating some of them. And it's early days, so far. I mean, I've lived in the Bay Area for 40 years, and it's only since 2018 that we've had days or weeks of wildfire smoke at hazardous levels, for example.
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Yes, that.
I'm a believer in the effect mankind has had on the climates of our world, but it has been going on for a very long time. Carbon emissions is not a new thing, and our current emissions, while not helping the big picture, are not going to change our climate over night in a significant manner. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be more responsible than we've been in the past 100 years or so.
There have been lots of climate changes over the life of the planet. One such event wiped out the dinosaurs, but that took a very long time.
GJ and I will be gone long before the climate can kill us. Weather might, but so might illness, injury, accident, or many other things.
I'm a believer in the effect mankind has had on the climates of our world, but it has been going on for a very long time. Carbon emissions is not a new thing, and our current emissions, while not helping the big picture, are not going to change our climate over night in a significant manner. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be more responsible than we've been in the past 100 years or so.
There have been lots of climate changes over the life of the planet. One such event wiped out the dinosaurs, but that took a very long time.
GJ and I will be gone long before the climate can kill us. Weather might, but so might illness, injury, accident, or many other things.
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@genejockey Asheville or similar is the way to go. PA or NY has 6 months of abysmal weather that requires much dedication to strap on many layers of clothing just to freeze your arse off. Your delusional if you think you won't mind that.
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I've been in DFW since 1981. We've been bichin and moanin that we've had incredibly cold winters and incredibly hot summers recently "due to climate change."
Here are the ten coldest winters in DFW:
1. 1977-78: 39.5
2. 1904-05: 40.5
3. 1898-99: 41.1
4. 1978-79: 41.2
5. 1983-84: 41.4
6. 1963-64: 42.6
7. 1976-77: 42.8
8. 2009-10: 42.9
9. 1917-18: 43.1
10. 1911-12: 43.6
There is no mention of the Great Freeze of 2020 in there. In fact, only 1 of the last 22 years deserves mention.
There was a lot of bichin and moanin about how hot it's been this summer, but it hasn't come close to touching 1980.
We are now always hearing about ozone levels being at dangerous levels in the summer, but that has always been there it just wasn't measured or reported in 1981, for example.
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The house across the street from me is back on the market. It sold in January, I think, for $400K. At the time is was 480 sq ft, no garage, and all f'd up. They cleaned it up and hauled tons of crap out and relisted it for $550K. No bites so they added on and painted everything and put a new roof. Now 1200 sq ft, they listed it for $770k.
This is not an upscale area, the prices are just shocking to me. How can a working person buy something like that? $180k down and $4100 per month? I know they will likely bring in multiple families but who qualifies for the mortgage?
I worked with a guy who got a "liar loan" in about 2007. He had scraped and scratched and borrowed from everyone but he got the house. In 2008 the value dropped and his work dropped and he lost everything.
This is not an upscale area, the prices are just shocking to me. How can a working person buy something like that? $180k down and $4100 per month? I know they will likely bring in multiple families but who qualifies for the mortgage?
I worked with a guy who got a "liar loan" in about 2007. He had scraped and scratched and borrowed from everyone but he got the house. In 2008 the value dropped and his work dropped and he lost everything.
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A substantial number of people have already been killed, and a whole lot more have been seriously impacted by "weather" that would not have happened, or would not have been as severe without climate change. And sure, climate has changed during the billions of years this planet has been here. But never so fast as this. It's well beyond "gosh, we should be more circumspect about our carbon emissions."
Take a look at the stats on the following chart. The reality is that weather related deaths are not going up and have not been unusual. 797 deaths in 2021. 1096 in 2011, 1451 in 2005, 1362 in 1995. 446 in 2020. There is no anomaly in the death rate these days.
80years_2021.pdf (weather.gov)
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The house across the street from me is back on the market. It sold in January, I think, for $400K. At the time is was 480 sq ft, no garage, and all f'd up. They cleaned it up and hauled tons of crap out and relisted it for $550K. No bites so they added on and painted everything and put a new roof. Now 1200 sq ft, they listed it for $770k.
This is not an upscale area, the prices are just shocking to me. How can a working person buy something like that? $180k down and $4100 per month? I know they will likely bring in multiple families but who qualifies for the mortgage?
I worked with a guy who got a "liar loan" in about 2007. He had scraped and scratched and borrowed from everyone but he got the house. In 2008 the value dropped and his work dropped and he lost everything.
This is not an upscale area, the prices are just shocking to me. How can a working person buy something like that? $180k down and $4100 per month? I know they will likely bring in multiple families but who qualifies for the mortgage?
I worked with a guy who got a "liar loan" in about 2007. He had scraped and scratched and borrowed from everyone but he got the house. In 2008 the value dropped and his work dropped and he lost everything.
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The reporting of things has changed and made us more aware of what's going on around us.
I've been in DFW since 1981. We've been bichin and moanin that we've had incredibly cold winters and incredibly hot summers recently "due to climate change."
Here are the ten coldest winters in DFW:
1. 1977-78: 39.5
2. 1904-05: 40.5
3. 1898-99: 41.1
4. 1978-79: 41.2
5. 1983-84: 41.4
6. 1963-64: 42.6
7. 1976-77: 42.8
8. 2009-10: 42.9
9. 1917-18: 43.1
10. 1911-12: 43.6
There is no mention of the Great Freeze of 2020 in there. In fact, only 1 of the last 22 years deserves mention.
There was a lot of bichin and moanin about how hot it's been this summer, but it hasn't come close to touching 1980.
We are now always hearing about ozone levels being at dangerous levels in the summer, but that has always been there it just wasn't measured or reported in 1981, for example.
I've been in DFW since 1981. We've been bichin and moanin that we've had incredibly cold winters and incredibly hot summers recently "due to climate change."
Here are the ten coldest winters in DFW:
1. 1977-78: 39.5
2. 1904-05: 40.5
3. 1898-99: 41.1
4. 1978-79: 41.2
5. 1983-84: 41.4
6. 1963-64: 42.6
7. 1976-77: 42.8
8. 2009-10: 42.9
9. 1917-18: 43.1
10. 1911-12: 43.6
There is no mention of the Great Freeze of 2020 in there. In fact, only 1 of the last 22 years deserves mention.
There was a lot of bichin and moanin about how hot it's been this summer, but it hasn't come close to touching 1980.
We are now always hearing about ozone levels being at dangerous levels in the summer, but that has always been there it just wasn't measured or reported in 1981, for example.
People die every year from weather. We get flooding around here, and the typical story when there is a drowning is that (a) someone drove into deep water and didn't heed the warnings not to, or (b) they were doing something else stupid in the water and didn't heed the warnings to get out before it came or get to high ground. We have lake drownings every year, and it's virtually always due to people swimming off the shore without a life jacket and having been drinking.
Take a look at the stats on the following chart. The reality is that weather related deaths are not going up and have not been unusual. 797 deaths in 2021. 1096 in 2011, 1451 in 2005, 1362 in 1995. 446 in 2020. There is no anomaly in the death rate these days.
80years_2021.pdf (weather.gov)
Take a look at the stats on the following chart. The reality is that weather related deaths are not going up and have not been unusual. 797 deaths in 2021. 1096 in 2011, 1451 in 2005, 1362 in 1995. 446 in 2020. There is no anomaly in the death rate these days.
80years_2021.pdf (weather.gov)
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I'm not disputing that we should all be more responsible with respect to our carbon emissions and other pollutants.
I'm just pointing out that the published statistics do not support your claim that more people are dying from the climate than ever before and that the climate is suddenly changing in unimaginable ways.
As I acknowledged, it's been changing for a very long time due to humanity's "progress." Longer than either of us has been alive.
I'm just pointing out that the published statistics do not support your claim that more people are dying from the climate than ever before and that the climate is suddenly changing in unimaginable ways.
As I acknowledged, it's been changing for a very long time due to humanity's "progress." Longer than either of us has been alive.
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Last weekend, while descending a local MTB trail with a friend, we came around a corner to a group of 3 other guys completely stopped. A mid-size rattlesnake was in the trail, and the first guy had stopped short of running it over, sending the snake went into danger mode. After about 5 minutes or so of tossing sticks and rolling rocks at it - not trying to hurt it - the snake finally decided to move along. Meanwhile, another group of 4 riders had come up behind us. First time I recall a traffic jam on Brown Mtn. Road.
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11 years ago, we paid $595k for our 1800sf home with a 14000sf lot in a moderate suburban 'hood with mediocre schools. Our re-fi this year appraised it at over 2x our purchase price. My wife and I both make medium bucks, but couldn't come close to affording our house if we had to buy it now. Once our kid's college is done and paid for, it might be time to consider cashing out and relocating.
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11 years ago, we paid $595k for our 1800sf home with a 14000sf lot in a moderate suburban 'hood with mediocre schools. Our re-fi this year appraised it at over 2x our purchase price. My wife and I both make medium bucks, but couldn't come close to affording our house if we had to buy it now. Once our kid's college is done and paid for, it might be time to consider cashing out and relocating.
We paid 280k for our place in 2001 and it will become a $1M home in another year at this rate. It may be good for us geezers, but sucky for the younger generation.
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Last weekend, while descending a local MTB trail with a friend, we came around a corner to a group of 3 other guys completely stopped. A mid-size rattlesnake was in the trail, and the first guy had stopped short of running it over, sending the snake went into danger mode. After about 5 minutes or so of tossing sticks and rolling rocks at it - not trying to hurt it - the snake finally decided to move along. Meanwhile, another group of 4 riders had come up behind us. First time I recall a traffic jam on Brown Mtn. Road.
Try doing THAT with 6" long minipump!
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