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Old 05-26-21, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Back in the 1970s, we were on the path to going metric. Then we got silly and stopped, so now you need at least two separate sets of wrenches, sockets, allen keys, etc.
I was recently driving through Louisville, KY (actually on the bypass) and the signs were in Km and miles which is what the interstate had for a short time in the 70s.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
I have vivid memories of heading west on the NYS Thruway, traveling at "thruway speeds" through the Mohawk Valley, and closing fast on Type 2 bus. We were going up hill and I reckon he was not moving much faster than a Model T.
I remember going with my brother in his 4-year-old Simca 1000 to Toledo OH to find an apartment for graduate school. We took the PA Turnpike. West of Harrisburg, it does A LOT of up and down. The Simca couldn't manage the uphills at the minimum speed of 45, so we had to put on the hazard flashers on every single uphill. Us and the trucks.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
8:13 !? Wut?

I'd have one side done by then.
You're not using extra complicated tape.
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Pretty toasty on my ride today but I made it up the local climb without stopping this time.

The last little kick up at the top is still really rude, though.
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The first time that I changed the factory tape on my Propel, I was amazed by the finishing of the tape at the ends near the stem. It had been tapered lengthwise and then skived thin so that it laid perfectly flat with the outer edge of the finishing tape tucked under the bar tape. It was a work of art and I could only imagine the effort that went into it. I now wish that I had photographed it to try to duplicate it.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Lame. I don't care what standard is used. Just pick one and everyone follow it.
Sorry, I’m not a follower.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
The first time that I changed the factory tape on my Propel, I was amazed by the finishing of the tape at the ends near the stem. It had been tapered lengthwise and then skived thin so that it laid perfectly flat with the outer edge of the finishing tape tucked under the bar tape. It was a work of art and I could only imagine the effort that went into it. I now wish that I had photographed it to try to duplicate it.
Skived. Great word.
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Originally Posted by big john
I remembered my last bike with a square taper bb is my Tesch from 1992, which a friend has and I haven't seen in years.

I have a Campagnolo crank which has a two piece spindle that is splined in the center and uses a short bolt to hold them together.
The bearings must be pressed in there somewhere too.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
No tools required for walking. Just saying.
Cobblers may have a different view.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
I have vivid memories of heading west on the NYS Thruway, traveling at "thruway speeds" through the Mohawk Valley, and closing fast on Type 2 bus. We were going up hill and I reckon he was not moving much faster than a Model T.
So 75.5 MPH?
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Originally Posted by rjones28
I've never timed myself. Of course, it's futile at the shop because I get interrupted at least a couple of times during the wrap.
Surely under ten minutes. Maybe even five, for a pro like you.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
Pretty toasty on my ride today but I made it up the local climb without stopping this time.

The last little kick up at the top is still really rude, though.
Garmin says I am 20% acclimated to the heat
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
The bearings must be pressed in there somewhere too.
The cranks have bearings fitted on them. You screw cups into the BB threads, then fit the two splined cranks into the cups, then screw the two cranks together with an enormous allen key.

(I think that's how it works. I let my LBS do this for me, rather than by even more tools - Octalink crank extractor, FSA BB tool, Campy UT cup wrench, enormous allen key)
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Is it physically possible to have the polka dot side exposed all the way around the bar in a single pass, while wrapping in the proper direction to counteract hand twist?

Yes or no?


Mine always comes out looking the same. But I've never had polka dots. I sometimes do the figure of eight and sometimes not. But it's easy to change, at the lever. If it's not coming out how you"d like, change your method until it does. It isn't rocket science.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
The cranks have bearings fitted on them. You screw cups into the BB threads, then fit the two splined cranks into the cups, then screw the two cranks together with an enormous allen key.

(I think that's how it works. I let my LBS do this for me, rather than by even more tools - Octalink crank extractor, FSA BB tool, Campy UT cup wrench, enormous allen key)
Well good. At least they are not pressed in. But octalink is old news, no?
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Sorry, I’m not a follower.
But, are you a believer?
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
Mine always comes out looking the same. But I've never had polka dots. I sometimes do the figure of eight and sometimes not. But it's easy to change, at the lever. If it's not coming out how you"d like, change your method until it does. It isn't rocket science.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
Well good. At least they are not pressed in. But octalink is old news, no?
I was describing the tools my LBS needed to change over my 2006 Bianchi from 2006 FSA cranks and BB to 2020 Centaur cranks and BB. And, yeah, Octalink IS old news. I think it was the beginning of the end for your average bike owner who does all his own work. Next thing you know, every Tom, Dick, and Harry has his own BB standard, and each has its own tools. I don't know how bike shops keep up. It's like doctors and the proliferation of nearly-identical medications with extremely subtle differences in efficacy and side effect profile. On the plus side, making a mistake with BB standards almost certainly won't kill anyone!
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
But, are you a believer?
Well, I saw her face, so, yeah, I'm a believer. I couldn't leave her if I tried.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
Mine always comes out looking the same. But I've never had polka dots. I sometimes do the figure of eight and sometimes not. But it's easy to change, at the lever. If it's not coming out how you"d like, change your method until it does. It isn't rocket science.
Yes, but is it rocket surgery?

(A former coworker whose husband is a Physicist told me he once said, "This isn't rocket science...And even if it were, I AM a Rocket Scientist!")
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
It isn't rocket science.
I tried variations on the theme. Still not there.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Cobblers may have a different view.
And, they need a skiving tool.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
The cranks have bearings fitted on them. You screw cups into the BB threads, then fit the two splined cranks into the cups, then screw the two cranks together with an enormous allen key.

(I think that's how it works. I let my LBS do this for me, rather than by even more tools - Octalink crank extractor, FSA BB tool, Campy UT cup wrench, enormous allen key)
That's primarily it. Not a hard job at all.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
The bearings must be pressed in there somewhere too.
Outboard bearings are threaded into the BB shell. The crank shown was what I installed in my 1979 Gianni Motta.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
Well good. At least they are not pressed in. But octalink is old news, no?
Yes. Very old.
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