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There are some individuals who literally have no life other than their work, and if forced to separate from that life they have nowhere to go but downhill. Others struggle along for a while but they aren't really what one would call happy. I find you need to have a multi-layered plan before you walk out the door, and work that plan until you find something rewarding to do. If that plan involves going back to work, whether FT or PT then so be it, just don't wander around waiting to die.
Interestingly, I happened to meet one of the co-authors on a bike trail in Copake, NY during my September tour home from northern Vermont. He’s in his 80s and still riding.
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That is one of the teachings of the book “Younger Next Year.” A lot of people (especially men) wake up in retirement and feel useless with nothing to do. They often become sedentary and gain weight, leading to health problems and early deaths. The book says have plans and hobbies to keep you interested in doing things.
Interestingly, I happened to meet one of the co-authors on a bike trail in Copake, NY during my September tour home from northern Vermont. He’s in his 80s and still riding.
Interestingly, I happened to meet one of the co-authors on a bike trail in Copake, NY during my September tour home from northern Vermont. He’s in his 80s and still riding.
Then one day, the career ends. Oops.
So, work to live, don't live to work.
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American culture tells men - or, at least, it TOLD men - that you are what you do as a job, and that you should work hard and even sacrifice for your job, because success in your career is the most important thing.
Then one day, the career ends. Oops.
So, work to live, don't live to work.
Then one day, the career ends. Oops.
So, work to live, don't live to work.
I typically answer "I ride a bike."
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The man retired at 78 and STILL lived another 22 years!
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American culture tells men - or, at least, it TOLD men - that you are what you do as a job, and that you should work hard and even sacrifice for your job, because success in your career is the most important thing.
Then one day, the career ends. Oops.
So, work to live, don't live to work.
Then one day, the career ends. Oops.
So, work to live, don't live to work.
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Agree 100%, even though the values and work ethic of past generations that built this great country have not been adopted in recent generations. And it's not all the worker's fault, management and supervision share the blame. Core values have changed somewhere along the line. It's tempting to think another World War might put values back on track, but there will be no bouncing back after the next one. So we're stuck with this large portion of the young population that believes the world owes them something.
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There are some individuals who literally have no life other than their work, and if forced to separate from that life they have nowhere to go but downhill. Others struggle along for a while but they aren't really what one would call happy. I find you need to have a multi-layered plan before you walk out the door, and work that plan until you find something rewarding to do. If that plan involves going back to work, whether FT or PT then so be it, just don't wander around waiting to die.
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Seriously.
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I’ve noticed that professional people (lawyers, doctors, academics, etc.) have jobs that “define” them and find it very hard to give that up. Luckily, my wife and I always had hobbies and slid into meaningful retirement easily. It also helps that we both have government pensions, lived frugally, and were savers/investors and live a comfortable but not extravagant life. I’d say that my wife and I are very happy in retirement.
Instead, I said find something that interests you enough that you could do it for 30-40 years, but be able to leave it behind at the end of the day. Still waiting for them to figure it out, though The Older Boy seems reasonably happy in Meat.
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Agree 100%, even though the values and work ethic of past generations that built this great country have not been adopted in recent generations. And it's not all the worker's fault, management and supervision share the blame. Core values have changed somewhere along the line. It's tempting to think another World War might put values back on track, but there will be no bouncing back after the next one. So we're stuck with this large portion of the young population that believes the world owes them something.
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My Dad had a series of fairly consuming interests outside of work, but I'd say his most consuming passion was gardening - not just flowers and veggies, but the whole yard. So, when he retired, he had lots to keep him busy. But he also did things like tapping the maple tree in their yard and making a really tiny quantity of his own maple syrup, or when he visited us in our old place where there were lots of olive trees around, picking a bucket full of them and curing them - in both cases, because it was something he'd never done.
The man retired at 78 and STILL lived another 22 years!
The man retired at 78 and STILL lived another 22 years!
Never met my paternal grandfather. He died before I was born, I think he was 54.
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American culture tells men - or, at least, it TOLD men - that you are what you do as a job, and that you should work hard and even sacrifice for your job, because success in your career is the most important thing.
Then one day, the career ends. Oops.
So, work to live, don't live to work.
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Agree 100%, even though the values and work ethic of past generations that built this great country have not been adopted in recent generations. And it's not all the worker's fault, management and supervision share the blame. Core values have changed somewhere along the line. It's tempting to think another World War might put values back on track, but there will be no bouncing back after the next one. So we're stuck with this large portion of the young population that believes the world owes them something.
Best: Gen X (obviously)
Good: Silent Generation, "Greatest Generation"
OK: Millennials
Bad: Baby Boomers, Gen Z
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