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#1127
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I don't drink alcohol, well maybe one drink per quarter. I do drink coffee. I suppose I could stop but why?
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Huge migraines, flu-like symptoms, extremely irritable. I've been drinking it for almost 40 years daily. Coffee has been the toughest to stop. These symptoms could also be because I quit drinking alcohol at the same time.
Now, I feel more awake and refreshed in the morning and don't think about drinking coffee. All of this started with a weekly 36 hour fast.
Now, I feel more awake and refreshed in the morning and don't think about drinking coffee. All of this started with a weekly 36 hour fast.
Interesting. I'm glad it's helping you out.
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That's your choice, but fairly good (but observational) evidence says coffee is good for your health and no good evidence of harm. Not so with alcohol.
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For me, when I fast its only water for the entire time. Im working up to 7 day fast in the next 3-4 months. Quitting coffee earlier is better as I would not have withdrawals during my fast.
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I rarely feel like I *need* coffee, though I have an espresso drink or two every day. If I did feel the need, I might be more wary of it.
My wife, though? Yeah, she gets the headaches without her morning dose. Not much of a morning person.
My wife, though? Yeah, she gets the headaches without her morning dose. Not much of a morning person.
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Why?
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There is no way I’d give up my morning coffee. One super-strong cup in the morning is essential. Slipping alcohol is fine.
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Physical and spiritual. I started fasting in my 20s for mental clarity. I have some bad genes - type 2 diabetes (Im prediabetic no matter what my diet is like), immune disorders etc... Fasting really lowers my blood sugar and supports other inflammatory benefits when in autophagy. I am also able to exercise while fasting, not at 100%
here are the stages of fasting:
The six stages of fasting:
Stage 1: 8-14 hours
• Stable blood sugar levels
• Using up stored sugar and sugar in the blood
• At 10 hours—the muscles use about 50% glucose and 50% fat (you’re starting to transition to fat-burning)
Stage 2: 14-24 hours
• Starting to get into ketosis
• Fewer cravings
• More energy
• Improved mood
• Improved cognitive function
Stage 3: 24-36 hours
• Full ketosis and fat burning
• The liver is making ketones
• Decreased appetite
• Decreased ghrelin
• Increased BDNF (new brain cells)
Stage 4: 36-48 hours
• Autophagy
• Kill cancer cells
• Decreased oxidative stress
• Decreased misfolded proteins
• Increased memory
Stage 5: 48-60 hours
• Insulin sensitivity super boost
• More autophagy
• Less inflammation
• Atrophy healing
• Protein sparing
Stage 6: 60-72 hours
• Immune system regeneration
• Spike in immune stem cells
here are the stages of fasting:
The six stages of fasting:
Stage 1: 8-14 hours
• Stable blood sugar levels
• Using up stored sugar and sugar in the blood
• At 10 hours—the muscles use about 50% glucose and 50% fat (you’re starting to transition to fat-burning)
Stage 2: 14-24 hours
• Starting to get into ketosis
• Fewer cravings
• More energy
• Improved mood
• Improved cognitive function
Stage 3: 24-36 hours
• Full ketosis and fat burning
• The liver is making ketones
• Decreased appetite
• Decreased ghrelin
• Increased BDNF (new brain cells)
Stage 4: 36-48 hours
• Autophagy
• Kill cancer cells
• Decreased oxidative stress
• Decreased misfolded proteins
• Increased memory
Stage 5: 48-60 hours
• Insulin sensitivity super boost
• More autophagy
• Less inflammation
• Atrophy healing
• Protein sparing
Stage 6: 60-72 hours
• Immune system regeneration
• Spike in immune stem cells
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I talked to my doc several years ago about my severe coffee habit. I do occasionally get palpitations and I’ll back it off for a day or two until they quit but it takes a lot of coffee to get to that point.
Anyway, he thinks that I’m fine with it and as a caffeine addict, know better than anyone how to manage my intake and my excess.
Anyway, he thinks that I’m fine with it and as a caffeine addict, know better than anyone how to manage my intake and my excess.
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Oh, and in terms of coffee crap, I'm seriously considering a new grinder. There's a Chinese jobber out there that's being marketed under various names, and it looks quite promising, but I'm also waiting on reviews from a new Eureka that'll be hitting the market in Aug. Both are single dose grinders, which appeals to me in a few ways.
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The average is probably much closer to two than one Recently, I've been making an iced drink with espresso, oat milk and a bit o' maple syrup. Damn - so good!
Oh, and in terms of coffee crap, I'm seriously considering a new grinder. There's a Chinese jobber out there that's being marketed under various names, and it looks quite promising, but I'm also waiting on reviews from a new Eureka that'll be hitting the market in Aug. Both are single dose grinders, which appeals to me in a few ways.
Oh, and in terms of coffee crap, I'm seriously considering a new grinder. There's a Chinese jobber out there that's being marketed under various names, and it looks quite promising, but I'm also waiting on reviews from a new Eureka that'll be hitting the market in Aug. Both are single dose grinders, which appeals to me in a few ways.
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It's no less appealing than blackberry pie. Which is to say, not at all.
I get maybe doing it for a day or two, to clear out/rest your GI. But beyond that I'm skeptical the pros outweigh the cons. Why would it boost your immune "stem cells," whatever that means?
Physical and spiritual. I started fasting in my 20s for mental clarity. I have some bad genes - type 2 diabetes (Im prediabetic no matter what my diet is like), immune disorders etc... Fasting really lowers my blood sugar and supports other inflammatory benefits when in autophagy. I am also able to exercise while fasting, not at 100%
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Where'd you get the needles? I've got a poor man's WDT, but the needles that I have aren't long enough - they're either too thick or not long enough.
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The average is probably much closer to two than one Recently, I've been making an iced drink with espresso, oat milk and a bit o' maple syrup. Damn - so good!
Oh, and in terms of coffee crap, I'm seriously considering a new grinder. There's a Chinese jobber out there that's being marketed under various names, and it looks quite promising, but I'm also waiting on reviews from a new Eureka that'll be hitting the market in Aug. Both are single dose grinders, which appeals to me in a few ways.
Oh, and in terms of coffee crap, I'm seriously considering a new grinder. There's a Chinese jobber out there that's being marketed under various names, and it looks quite promising, but I'm also waiting on reviews from a new Eureka that'll be hitting the market in Aug. Both are single dose grinders, which appeals to me in a few ways.
Anyway someone gifted me a Cuisinart automatic electric burr grinder a few years ago with adjustable amounts and grind levels and if I ever get divorced it's the only thing I'm taking with me. (I'm kidding, I'll take the dogs too. Plus all the bikes. But other than that...)
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My coffee snobbishness and my cheap bastard-ness are always fighting. I like good beans from the local co-op and I've settled on a French Press as my method of choice in the morning (right balance between convenience and quality for me) but I made do with a sub-par grinder for years because I just couldn't bring myself to spring for the more well-regarded burr grinders.
Anyway someone gifted me a Cuisinart automatic electric burr grinder a few years ago with adjustable amounts and grind levels and if I ever get divorced it's the only thing I'm taking with me. (I'm kidding, I'll take the dogs too. Plus all the bikes. But other than that...)
Anyway someone gifted me a Cuisinart automatic electric burr grinder a few years ago with adjustable amounts and grind levels and if I ever get divorced it's the only thing I'm taking with me. (I'm kidding, I'll take the dogs too. Plus all the bikes. But other than that...)