Campagnolo Super Record Wireless
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Campagnolo Super Record Wireless
https://www.cyclingtips.com/2023/05/...t-look-review/
So, what do y'all think? Sounds way too pricey and not sure I like the new look... Better outperform Dura Ace 9200 for that money (I somehow doubt it).
So, what do y'all think? Sounds way too pricey and not sure I like the new look... Better outperform Dura Ace 9200 for that money (I somehow doubt it).
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As stated in the other Campy SR wireless thread(in General), that stuff is fugly.
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-c...-wireless.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-c...-wireless.html
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As stated in the other Campy SR wireless thread(in General), that stuff is fugly.
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-c...-wireless.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-c...-wireless.html
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Wow.
No big cassettes, no satellite shifters, downsized chainrings, bulbous Chinese groupset startup prototype looks, vertical shifter separation in a departure from the Campag layout the loyal base loves. I hear the shifters are not easy to distinguish by feel and that there are sharp edges on the housing.
Wireless, ride home mode, good claimed range, and faster shifts don't seem to make up for it upon first glance in the light of the competition and the current performance level in the market.
Not sure what strange series of events need to come together for anyone to pick this over DA at the price point.
No big cassettes, no satellite shifters, downsized chainrings, bulbous Chinese groupset startup prototype looks, vertical shifter separation in a departure from the Campag layout the loyal base loves. I hear the shifters are not easy to distinguish by feel and that there are sharp edges on the housing.
Wireless, ride home mode, good claimed range, and faster shifts don't seem to make up for it upon first glance in the light of the competition and the current performance level in the market.
Not sure what strange series of events need to come together for anyone to pick this over DA at the price point.
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This is great news, and it puts Campagnolo back in play on the road bike scene!
Wireless is the way, so it’s great having an alternative SRAM. Not that I dislike SRAM— Force AXS has been good to me— but Campagnolo is the legend, the true spirit of road cycling, and it’s what I prefer. I just wasn’t going to mess with wired electronic shifting.
Wireless is the way, so it’s great having an alternative SRAM. Not that I dislike SRAM— Force AXS has been good to me— but Campagnolo is the legend, the true spirit of road cycling, and it’s what I prefer. I just wasn’t going to mess with wired electronic shifting.
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Wow.
No big cassettes, no satellite shifters, downsized chainrings, bulbous Chinese groupset startup prototype looks, vertical shifter separation in a departure from the Campag layout the loyal base loves. I hear the shifters are not easy to distinguish by feel and that there are sharp edges on the housing.
Wireless, ride home mode, good claimed range, and faster shifts don't seem to make up for it upon first glance in the light of the competition and the current performance level in the market.
Not sure what strange series of events need to come together for anyone to pick this over DA at the price point.
No big cassettes, no satellite shifters, downsized chainrings, bulbous Chinese groupset startup prototype looks, vertical shifter separation in a departure from the Campag layout the loyal base loves. I hear the shifters are not easy to distinguish by feel and that there are sharp edges on the housing.
Wireless, ride home mode, good claimed range, and faster shifts don't seem to make up for it upon first glance in the light of the competition and the current performance level in the market.
Not sure what strange series of events need to come together for anyone to pick this over DA at the price point.
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Two different batteries, no thanks.
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That does sound, prima facie, like an inconvenience and complication, but I think being able to charge in situ (i.e. while installed on the bike) goes a long way and pretty much quashes the complaint. It’s certainly preferable for me to charge on-bike, as it reduces necessary parts and steps in the process, and simplifies organization. It’s how I charge my Assioma pedals, and I’d prefer my Force AXS charged that way.
It does mean two spares are needed if spare batteries are your thing, but I don’t think it is for the vast majority of riders or the specific target segment of riders who drop $5.5k USD on a groupset. Were we looking at an adventure/randonneur groupset, I could see a different calculus at play perhaps, but covering every eventuality is not the MO of the luxury market.
It does mean two spares are needed if spare batteries are your thing, but I don’t think it is for the vast majority of riders or the specific target segment of riders who drop $5.5k USD on a groupset. Were we looking at an adventure/randonneur groupset, I could see a different calculus at play perhaps, but covering every eventuality is not the MO of the luxury market.
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meh,..... I'll stick with Shimano, thanks
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I rode Campy for 40 years, through 11 speed Chorus. As I got older and looked for lower gearing Campy stopped at 28. I was as big a Campy snob as anyone but since I got a new bike in 2018 with Ultegra Di2 and larger cassette range I have no regrets. It works flawlessly. $5500.00 is more than I paid for my Synapse with Di2.
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I rode Campy for 40 years, through 11 speed Chorus. As I got older and looked for lower gearing Campy stopped at 28. I was as big a Campy snob as anyone but since I got a new bike in 2018 with Ultegra Di2 and larger cassette range I have no regrets. It works flawlessly. $5500.00 is more than I paid for my Synapse with Di2.
EDIT: BTW, I have Chorus 12 with an 11-32 cassette and 34-50 chainrings. You can even get an 11-34 cassette and 32-48 crankset. (I believe the 32-48 crankset is Chorus only - not available on Record or SR)
However, I did not get Ekar on my gravel bike because the gearing is not low enough for me for the riding around here. I went SRAM with third party cassette and crankset.
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Fair enough, but bear in mind that (a) you can usually buy these groupsets at deep discounts off of MSRP once they've been on the market a while, and (b) if they eventually make Record and Chorus versions of this, they will be MUCH cheaper. Chorus should be close to 1/2 the price IF they ever make it. I would think they'd have to start going down that road if they want to stay in the game.
EDIT: BTW, I have Chorus 12 with an 11-32 cassette and 34-50 chainrings. You can even get an 11-34 cassette and 32-48 crankset. (I believe the 32-48 crankset is Chorus only - not available on Record or SR)
However, I did not get Ekar on my gravel bike because the gearing is not low enough for me for the riding around here. I went SRAM with third party cassette and crankset.
EDIT: BTW, I have Chorus 12 with an 11-32 cassette and 34-50 chainrings. You can even get an 11-34 cassette and 32-48 crankset. (I believe the 32-48 crankset is Chorus only - not available on Record or SR)
However, I did not get Ekar on my gravel bike because the gearing is not low enough for me for the riding around here. I went SRAM with third party cassette and crankset.
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I wouldn’t present myself as an expert in luxury goods marketing although I do have some practical familarity working in the field, but based on the replies here, it looks like Campagnolo are doing it right.
Most people are supposed to be a “no” on the buy for a variety of reasons. If most people were a “yes,” that’d be a successful common or commodity good, but a failure as an exclusive, luxury good.
Most people are supposed to be a “no” on the buy for a variety of reasons. If most people were a “yes,” that’d be a successful common or commodity good, but a failure as an exclusive, luxury good.
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Yeah, I was going to say, I'm running 11s mid-cage Chorus with a 32 cassette.
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This is great news, and it puts Campagnolo back in play on the road bike scene!
Wireless is the way, so it’s great having an alternative SRAM. Not that I dislike SRAM— Force AXS has been good to me— but Campagnolo is the legend, the true spirit of road cycling, and it’s what I prefer. I just wasn’t going to mess with wired electronic shifting.
Wireless is the way, so it’s great having an alternative SRAM. Not that I dislike SRAM— Force AXS has been good to me— but Campagnolo is the legend, the true spirit of road cycling, and it’s what I prefer. I just wasn’t going to mess with wired electronic shifting.
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As I stated upthread, I’m not in the SR market either, but not because I’d be just as happy with 105. I want SR Wireless, I just can’t afford it and will probably do SRAM Force AXS again on my next roadie if Campagnolo doesn’t send the tech downmarket before then. Or I win lotto… 😉
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Yeah, that’s how it works. Super Record is not for everyone, particularly not those price-shopping it against Shimano 105. You have to be in the premium segment to be on the SR radar, and whether it resonates in that market segment is yet to be seen.
As I stated upthread, I’m not in the SR market either, but not because I’d be just as happy with 105. I want SR Wireless, I just can’t afford it and will probably do SRAM Force AXS again on my next roadie if Campagnolo doesn’t send the tech downmarket before then. Or I win lotto… 😉
As I stated upthread, I’m not in the SR market either, but not because I’d be just as happy with 105. I want SR Wireless, I just can’t afford it and will probably do SRAM Force AXS again on my next roadie if Campagnolo doesn’t send the tech downmarket before then. Or I win lotto… 😉
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I wouldn’t present myself as an expert in luxury goods marketing although I do have some practical familarity working in the field, but based on the replies here, it looks like Campagnolo are doing it right.
Most people are supposed to be a “no” on the buy for a variety of reasons. If most people were a “yes,” that’d be a successful common or commodity good, but a failure as an exclusive, luxury good.
Most people are supposed to be a “no” on the buy for a variety of reasons. If most people were a “yes,” that’d be a successful common or commodity good, but a failure as an exclusive, luxury good.
I'm glad that I'm not into conspicuous consumption. I can just buy a less costly product that is prettier and works better.
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Yeah, well adding in the DTC component moves the target market even further afield, as SR buyers are probably, in large part, looking for bespoke/custom frames and builds. But I dunno…do Canyon offer SR? It seems like a completely different business model, but I really don’t know…
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Yeah, well adding in the DTC component moves the target market even further afield, as SR buyers are probably, in large part, looking for bespoke/custom frames and builds. But I dunno…do Canyon offer SR? It seems like a completely different business model, but I really don’t know…
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Canyon does offer a SR EPS model currently at about a $9100 (US equiv) pricepoint, but not on the US site. Going OT.. not sure what's up with Canyon US -- really small product lineup at the moment. Much more available eg. if you live in Canada and shop on their site for some reason.