Bike Snob NY (Eben Weiss) on carbon
02-01-24, 09:00 AM
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02-01-24, 09:05 AM
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Oh this is terrible. The BF has sunk to a new low where common sense and reason has inserted itself. Where is Larry when you need him?
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Mrs Based and I went on a 10 day road trip just before Memorial day from Seattle to Yellowstones' West gate, then onward to Ogden Utah with a visit to Utah Trike & back to Seattle. That Yeti even with all the 10 days worth of open/close cycles for food prep & replenishment only used 1 bag of ice and a single replacement in that entire 10 day period. Still tossed a half bag when we got home. Probably saved $50 in ice cost over conventional coolers on that 1 trip alone.
Needed? Absolutely not. But, still pretty cool.
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02-01-24, 11:55 AM
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Insert any hobby into this discussion.
Not that there is anything wrong with it - but the internet has played a massive role in duffers using professional level gear. Go on any early golf based message board and there would be board golf "pro's" telling newbs that they need clubs suited for Tiger... or a bike suited for Lance... or fishing gear suited for the bass pro's...
I'm also a fisherman, and used to be a "professional" fisherman. I've literally cleaned 10's of thousands of fish, and helped people catch 10's of thousands of fish - the internet people would ask what's the " best" fillet knife - and the board experts would guide the newbs into $$$$ blades made of this or that material, with this or that handle type... meanwhile, the "pro's" used $15 fillet knives, and when this advice is offered up on the board - the board people would go nuts. You have to have the $$$$$ fillet knife, everything else is crap. Same for fishing rods, hooks, reels, boats... COOLERS!!!! Only a $500 yeti will keep ice cold!!
Not that there is anything wrong with it - but the internet has played a massive role in duffers using professional level gear. Go on any early golf based message board and there would be board golf "pro's" telling newbs that they need clubs suited for Tiger... or a bike suited for Lance... or fishing gear suited for the bass pro's...
I'm also a fisherman, and used to be a "professional" fisherman. I've literally cleaned 10's of thousands of fish, and helped people catch 10's of thousands of fish - the internet people would ask what's the " best" fillet knife - and the board experts would guide the newbs into $$$$ blades made of this or that material, with this or that handle type... meanwhile, the "pro's" used $15 fillet knives, and when this advice is offered up on the board - the board people would go nuts. You have to have the $$$$$ fillet knife, everything else is crap. Same for fishing rods, hooks, reels, boats... COOLERS!!!! Only a $500 yeti will keep ice cold!!
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02-01-24, 12:09 PM
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The author's problem with carbon revolves around the idea that they're an expense whose marginal benefits are irrelevant to feeble non-pros.
That might be a valid point for poors, but the author forgets that there are people with disposable income. Keyword disposable.
And that's pretty much the end of it.
That might be a valid point for poors, but the author forgets that there are people with disposable income. Keyword disposable.
And that's pretty much the end of it.
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The author's problem with carbon revolves around the idea that they're an expense whose marginal benefits are irrelevant to feeble non-pros.
That might be a valid point for poors, but the author forgets that there are people with disposable bikes. Keyword disposable.
And that's pretty much the end of it.
That might be a valid point for poors, but the author forgets that there are people with disposable bikes. Keyword disposable.
And that's pretty much the end of it.
02-01-24, 12:29 PM
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02-01-24, 12:29 PM
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The author's problem with carbon revolves around the idea that they're an expense whose marginal benefits are irrelevant to feeble non-pros.
That might be a valid point for poors, but the author forgets that there are people with disposable income. Keyword disposable.
And that's pretty much the end of it.
That might be a valid point for poors, but the author forgets that there are people with disposable income. Keyword disposable.
And that's pretty much the end of it.
02-01-24, 12:38 PM
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To paraphrase Mike Magnuson (Heft on Wheels) "If you're worried about bike weight try going from say 242 pounds of body weight to 174. Then see how fast you fly up up the hills".
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02-01-24, 01:58 PM
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I just bought my very first carbon bike ever, about 10 days ago.
It still hasn't improved my insomnia, hemarohoids, impotence or my propensity to invent right-wing conspiracy theories to explain everything.
It still hasn't improved my insomnia, hemarohoids, impotence or my propensity to invent right-wing conspiracy theories to explain everything.
02-01-24, 02:24 PM
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You bought the wrong one. The good carbon bikes fix all those things.
02-01-24, 02:30 PM
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As a boomer let me respond to the op-ed: Okay, boomer.
Retrogrouch is a remarkably easy path and requires nothing more than airing of grievances. That's what Festivus is for.
Retrogrouch is a remarkably easy path and requires nothing more than airing of grievances. That's what Festivus is for.
02-01-24, 03:20 PM
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Well, the Festivus Airing of Grievances requires the use of an aluminum pole. An aluminum bike frame has 8 aluminum poles. The anti-carbon crowd is well equipped for the ritual...Even if it is 11 months away.
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Well it certainly has given you shinier, whiter teeth.
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02-01-24, 03:59 PM
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No, you didn't.
I'm 6'2" tall and currently 161 lbs. How much weight do I have to lose before I can worry about bike weight?
I'm 6'2" tall and currently 161 lbs. How much weight do I have to lose before I can worry about bike weight?
02-01-24, 04:52 PM
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FWIW As a single data point:
Mrs Based and I went on a 10 day road trip just before Memorial day from Seattle to Yellowstones' West gate, then onward to Ogden Utah with a visit to Utah Trike & back to Seattle. That Yeti even with all the 10 days worth of open/close cycles for food prep & replenishment only used 1 bag of ice and a single replacement in that entire 10 day period. Still tossed a half bag when we got home. Probably saved $50 in ice cost over conventional coolers on that 1 trip alone.
Needed? Absolutely not. But, still pretty cool.
Mrs Based and I went on a 10 day road trip just before Memorial day from Seattle to Yellowstones' West gate, then onward to Ogden Utah with a visit to Utah Trike & back to Seattle. That Yeti even with all the 10 days worth of open/close cycles for food prep & replenishment only used 1 bag of ice and a single replacement in that entire 10 day period. Still tossed a half bag when we got home. Probably saved $50 in ice cost over conventional coolers on that 1 trip alone.
Needed? Absolutely not. But, still pretty cool.
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