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#5376
Elitist
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In the event that the sensor happens to be too close to the magnet:
Was your sensor facing forward (as in my photo above)? If so, then the magnet will slide under it.
If the sensor is facing backwards, then the sensor will attempt to slide under the magnet or brute force push it off.
My method worked for years with no issues like yours. There may be one small but significant difference in implementation.
Was your sensor facing forward (as in my photo above)? If so, then the magnet will slide under it.
If the sensor is facing backwards, then the sensor will attempt to slide under the magnet or brute force push it off.
My method worked for years with no issues like yours. There may be one small but significant difference in implementation.
#5377
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Boise, ID
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Bikes: S-Works Venge Dura-Ace DI2, KTM Strada 4000, Fuji Norcom Straight 1.3 (TT), Fuji Track Elite, BMC Trackmachine TR02
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In the event that the sensor happens to be too close to the magnet:
Was your sensor facing forward (as in my photo above)? If so, then the magnet will slide under it.
If the sensor is facing backwards, then the sensor will attempt to slide under the magnet or brute force push it off.
My method worked for years with no issues like yours. There may be one small but significant difference in implementation.
Was your sensor facing forward (as in my photo above)? If so, then the magnet will slide under it.
If the sensor is facing backwards, then the sensor will attempt to slide under the magnet or brute force push it off.
My method worked for years with no issues like yours. There may be one small but significant difference in implementation.
#5378
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That's awesome. I have a few places in my neighborhood where i can ride my track bike. Before I even got on a velodrome, I spend 2 months at a sports complex park a block away that has a giant rectangular 1K bike path in the middle of the field. It worked great and even had a slight bank on one corner, and very importantly, there was grass on the outside, so when I got too fast and road off the path, I didn't kill myself! LOL I would also use one of the long sides as a drag strip and practice standing starts, and was able to get a 300m sprint, finishing in the grass...sort of like track bike meets CX.
I was looking at the Magnus and it appears to be sold out on their site, but they have a newer M2 Smart Trainer, which looks to be the replacement of the Magnus? Same price. I like that they say right in the specs that they are compatible with 120mm.
https://www.cycleops.com/product/m2
I was looking at the Magnus and it appears to be sold out on their site, but they have a newer M2 Smart Trainer, which looks to be the replacement of the Magnus? Same price. I like that they say right in the specs that they are compatible with 120mm.
https://www.cycleops.com/product/m2
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Yes that looks like an updated version. All my seated interval stuff is done on it, and it has the ability to adjust to 120mm spacing. I do not have a power meter on my track bike so for dedicated intervals the smart trainer was the way to go. I did attempt standing starts on it once by adding some deck tape to the roller, but the resistance just wasnt high enough even with a 100+ gear on the bike, so all pure sprint stuff i just do outdoors now if its not freezing out.
#5380
Here are two examples from my bikes:
The Zipp 808 front isn't a directional wheel, so I put a magnet on both sides. The sensor is on the left fork arm. This is the right side. So, if I happen to put the wheel on in the opposite direction, there will be a magnet in place.
The Zipp 808 front isn't a directional wheel, so I put a magnet on both sides. The sensor is on the left fork arm. This is the right side. So, if I happen to put the wheel on in the opposite direction, there will be a magnet in place.
#5381
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Anyone have a picture of the perkins/perko 33cm carbon sprint bars. They look like a narrower version of the bt sprint bars. Can't for the life of me find a picture of them online.
#5382
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https://www.bikeforums.net/20669783-post2230.html
But these are on Glaetzer's bike. I don't think Perkins ever rode anything that was SUPER narrow, at least not before the Brits went super narrow.
But these are on Glaetzer's bike. I don't think Perkins ever rode anything that was SUPER narrow, at least not before the Brits went super narrow.
#5384
Senior Member
It's Shane's father Darryl who is extremely well known here and well regarded for his hand made Perkin track frames.
Last edited by Dalai; 12-08-18 at 03:46 PM.
#5385
Senior Member
Search the FB Trackcycling Marketplace group if you’re on it. A set came up for sale early this year or last year. The ad may still be there
#5386
Great at turning left
I've searched the group's I'm in before and haven't found anything, but I just searched for any other groups I may have missed and an ad came up from late 2015, but only when I searched "Perkin" and not "Perkins" or "Perko" even though those are the words used in the ad.
anyway I have found pictures now. Many thanks!!
anyway I have found pictures now. Many thanks!!
#5387
Senior Member
I've searched the group's I'm in before and haven't found anything, but I just searched for any other groups I may have missed and an ad came up from late 2015, but only when I searched "Perkin" and not "Perkins" or "Perko" even though those are the words used in the ad.
anyway I have found pictures now. Many thanks!!
anyway I have found pictures now. Many thanks!!
I'll try and see how you can get a pair next time I'm out, but from memory there's not that many around
#5388
Hi all,
im investigating new frames as the reach on my current bike is not really long enough. I’m already on a 140 stem and I’m still not able to get the position I want.
so looking around at many manufacturers I’m seeing a lot of the top tier frames have quite short reach numbers. The brand S1NEO caught my eye - seems like a lot of bike for the money and has Francois Pervis name attached to the design.
Anyway, look at the attached geometry table. How can their XL frame have such an impossibly short reach? Am I missing something? It doesn’t look like the bike has a bayonet fork so shouldn’t be an offset stem or anything.
Im new to interpreting geometry tables so I might be misunderstanding this but does this bike really have a super short reach?
similar sized look 875 has a reach of 460mm by comparison.
#5389
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I've searched the group's I'm in before and haven't found anything, but I just searched for any other groups I may have missed and an ad came up from late 2015, but only when I searched "Perkin" and not "Perkins" or "Perko" even though those are the words used in the ad.
anyway I have found pictures now. Many thanks!!
anyway I have found pictures now. Many thanks!!
#5390
The brand S1NEO caught my eye - seems like a lot of bike for the money and has Francois Pervis name attached to the design.
Anyway, look at the attached geometry table. How can their XL frame have such an impossibly short reach? Am I missing something? It doesn’t look like the bike has a bayonet fork so shouldn’t be an offset stem or anything.
Im new to interpreting geometry tables so I might be misunderstanding this but does this bike really have a super short reach?
I'm not sure how the head tube angle influences things, perhaps someone more astute with maths could fill that one in.
I have an older Ridley Oval, which is really weird geo wise. I'm 182cm, and the bike has a 54cm top tube, 170mm head tube, and the highest standover of any of my bikes (normally 57-58cm) BUT the bike has a crazy steep head tube, and a 75.5 degree seat tube - with a set back post, it has the same saddle to handlebar distance as my other bikes. I do have a fair bit of seat post out, which puts me further back and increases the effective reach.
My weight is balanced when I'm riding, and because of the weird angles the wheelbase is nice and tight, but the reach number for that frame is about 389 , whereas the reach for my other bikes is comfortably over 410. If I'd measured the bike before I bought it, instead of just test riding it, I might have gone down a different path, especially since I also have a 140mm stem and Nitto B123s on there, and it is *nearly* long enough.
I am looking around for a new bike (who isn't right?) and I would much rather be on a more standard geometry bike, partly for a bit more adjustability, but partly for a more sensible standover and shorter head tube. Its been a good bike so far, really it's been good enough for me to wring myself out in the middle of the pack which is about the limits to my racing, but that's my 2 cents. I have no idea why they designed the bike the way they did.
#5393
Elitist
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If I didn't know any better, I'd say that those are BT sprint bars:
https://www.biketechnologies.com/bt-sprint-2/
You can see them in use here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRvnGsPF7k0
Specifications.
36CM C-C ( one size available)
148mm Drop
95mm Reach
Grip diameter 26mm
31.8mm clamp diameter
Weight 350grams.
36CM C-C ( one size available)
148mm Drop
95mm Reach
Grip diameter 26mm
31.8mm clamp diameter
Weight 350grams.
You can see them in use here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRvnGsPF7k0
#5394
Elitist
Thread Starter
The S1NEO looks to be a generic road TT frame repurposed as a "track" bike.
75 degree seat tube angle and 72 degree head tube angle are angles for use with aerobars. Period.
I've never seen Pervis ride one outside of an ad. Come to think of it, I've only seen him standing next to one.
I'd pass on it.
75 degree seat tube angle and 72 degree head tube angle are angles for use with aerobars. Period.
I've never seen Pervis ride one outside of an ad. Come to think of it, I've only seen him standing next to one.
I'd pass on it.
#5395
Great at turning left
Very similar to the bt bars, just a smaller width and I think maybe smaller drop and reach but not completely sure.
I managed to find someone selling a set of them and they are in the post now 😆
I managed to find someone selling a set of them and they are in the post now 😆
#5396
Senior Member
If I didn't know any better, I'd say that those are BT sprint bars:
BT Sprint ? Bike Technologies Australia | biketechnologies.com
You can see them in use here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRvnGsPF7k0
BT Sprint ? Bike Technologies Australia | biketechnologies.com
You can see them in use here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRvnGsPF7k0
Perkins
BT
#5397
Elitist
Thread Starter
Good catch!
#5398
Senior Member
#5399
The S1NEO looks to be a generic road TT frame repurposed as a "track" bike.
75 degree seat tube angle and 72 degree head tube angle are angles for use with aerobars. Period.
I've never seen Pervis ride one outside of an ad. Come to think of it, I've only seen him standing next to one.
I'd pass on it.
75 degree seat tube angle and 72 degree head tube angle are angles for use with aerobars. Period.
I've never seen Pervis ride one outside of an ad. Come to think of it, I've only seen him standing next to one.
I'd pass on it.
What do you think about the geometry angles of the Look 875 Maddison? I expect its more tuned for endurance track riding but i would primarily be using it for Sprinting? My current Planet X Track Pro is too short in reach for me to get into a long & low aero position for sprinting.
#5400
Olympus has a bar option: https://olympusspeed.com/collections...rack-handlebar
Kaben, check out a Dolan DF4 (or DF3). They are pretty long, low, and affordable. Yes, there are some known issues - some have seat post slippage, but if you torque to spec (17-19nm) it's not a huge issue. And yes, the dropouts are short on the newer version.
Kaben, check out a Dolan DF4 (or DF3). They are pretty long, low, and affordable. Yes, there are some known issues - some have seat post slippage, but if you torque to spec (17-19nm) it's not a huge issue. And yes, the dropouts are short on the newer version.