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Old 04-12-20, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Nice. I was going to say you really need not lock your bike up just to take a pic, and 3 locks are pretty excessive... Then I looked again.
Yeah, random pee stop, then I saw all those locks and had to have a pic.
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Originally Posted by big john
And you realized it was 4 locks.
Holy ****. It's like a trick from science.
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It was raining early so took the opportunity to tape up a set of TL gravel rims and mounted new tires. Held air without sealant so I leaned them against the work bench, grabbed my road bike and went for a 23 mile ride.

This morning’s TL wheel and tire setup is still sitting at the same pressure without sealant. Must of been a pro tape up job.

Sooner or later, I’ll have to put the sealant in... another day
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
It was raining early...
I took about 25 min of incoming, mid ride. Extra hardass points.
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Recovery ride on the Frankenbike. Nice mix of road and gravel.






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Originally Posted by big john
I had planned (I use the term loosely) to retire at 62 and figured I would just buy insurance or do without. Then we got evicted so they could sell the house and Mrs John got fired from her job. 3 more years! Now that my employer knew I would be leaving at some point I lost a bit of clout so they stopped all efforts to help me and then came the hardest years.
The 2 young guys they hired to make me redundant weren't up to the task, one of them eventually quit. One of the managers said he could body-snatch a guy from another dealer and so they made that guy a huge offer rumored to be more than anyone else at our dealer. So they knew they didn't need me.
The week before i retired the guy bailed, said he wouldn't leave his other job. Then they finally called me into the office to ask "what will it take" to keep me there?
I wanted to tell them the whole story about how they jerked me around for 3 years but instead I just said I wouldn't consider staying until I had at least several months off. So I didn't burn the bridge and they actually let me work on my own car there since I left.
So are you out now or just on a break?
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Went for a ride, but not quite my age, because it was Easter and I did a bunch of extra climbing...yeah, that’s right.

Hot!
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Originally Posted by abshipp
Happy spring, everyone!
Goats
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Originally Posted by datlas
Recovery ride on the Frankenbike. Nice mix of road and gravel.

Bike down! Bike down!
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Mini survey

Which is a better animal to own: goats or dogs?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
And apparently, I set new all-time 10-minute and 90-minute power records on this morning's many fake miles. At least that explains my terrible run.
Nice! And just as a public service anounsment. All running is terrible. Js.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Recovery ride on the Frankenbike. Nice mix of road and gravel.




Bike looks tired.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
I took about 25 min of incoming, mid ride. Extra hardass points.
Extra cleaning points too.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Mini survey

Which is a better animal to own: goats or dogs?
Well you wouldn't wanna drink dog milk and dogs won't mow your lawns for ya, so goats.

Gotta make sure you keep your cars in the garage though.

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Old 04-12-20, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas
I am going to get on my high horse. JUST for a minute.

One of the reasons why I am close to walking away from medicine is the vast majority of patients want/need/like TESTS. They do NOT trust the doctor's judgment. It's incredibly frustrating for me, but this is my age showing.

Classic example:

A newly turned 50 year old male comes in to see me. Says he wants to get his heart "checked" including an EKG and a stress test, since he has friends that have had heart attacks and stents etc. I ask him about any symptoms? No, doc, I just ran a 10K and did really well. His heart and lung exam are fine. His BP is normal, he is a nonsmoker and cholesterol numbers are not ideal but acceptable.

He does NOT need a stress test. OR an EKG even. However, if I tell him this, he will be very angry. Even if I explain that tests like these will NOT predict who will have a heart attack in the future. He KNOWS he needs to get this done.

His identical twin brother goes to a NP, not a doctor. Asks for the same thing, of course the noctor says "yes" because nurses care more than doctors. Guy goes to cardiologist, gets EKG, heart monitor test, echocardiogram, and nuclear treadmill test. Oh, and to be safe a check on his carotid arteries. The whole pricetag for this workup is about $8,000, but it's covered by insurance. Everything looks ok.

The twin is very happy and satisfied that he got a 100% clear bill of health from the cardiologist. He thinks his brother needs to stop seeing me and see his NP instead.

Everyone is happy. The cardiologist made a lot of $$$, the patient was reassured, and the NP saw the patient in 5 minutes, while I spent 30 minutes trying to explain to the patient why he does not need all the testing etc.

This is part (only part) of why our healthcare system is really good and a terrible rip-off when it comes to value.

/end rant
Huge issue in healthcare today. I’m not an MD and can’t speak to medical necessity, but services are way over utilized so physicians can meet patient satisfaction quality metrics. Everyone pisses and moans about payers declining unnecessary treatment and in the next breath complains about the cost of care.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Extra cleaning points too.
Done.
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Fake miles, sigh....

my wife is mad that I’m still going to work, so I don’t want to take the 1 in a million chance that I may get it on a bike ride lest I blamed “I got Covid-19 because I kept working”.

so it was fake miles, lawn work, and then bike cleaning in the driveway. Gotta say, $14 Aldi bike stand works quite well for what I’m using it for.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
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Which is a better animal to own: goats or dogs?
Dogs.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
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Silly mouse, that would be dogs.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
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Which is a better animal to own: goats or dogs?
Duh! Dogs of course.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Bike looks tired.
Rider tired. The price you pay for taking the top position on the leaderboard!
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Nice ride today, no problems at all. Took 6 or 8 minutes off my time.
When I built this bike I took a chance on a pair of Maxxis Detonators , looking for something cheaper than Conti's. I have to say these are some pretty nice tires. A little heavier but they roll great. I have even been able to run a lower than max pressure.
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Hey Heathpack in spite of the rip-off price we are considering letting Heidi go to USC. We have never even been to Southern California.

Any comments?
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Originally Posted by datlas
I am going to get on my high horse. JUST for a minute.

One of the reasons why I am close to walking away from medicine is the vast majority of patients want/need/like TESTS. They do NOT trust the doctor's judgment. It's incredibly frustrating for me, but this is my age showing.

Classic example:

A newly turned 50 year old male comes in to see me. Says he wants to get his heart "checked" including an EKG and a stress test, since he has friends that have had heart attacks and stents etc. I ask him about any symptoms? No, doc, I just ran a 10K and did really well. His heart and lung exam are fine. His BP is normal, he is a nonsmoker and cholesterol numbers are not ideal but acceptable.

He does NOT need a stress test. OR an EKG even. However, if I tell him this, he will be very angry. Even if I explain that tests like these will NOT predict who will have a heart attack in the future. He KNOWS he needs to get this done.

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The twin is very happy and satisfied that he got a 100% clear bill of health from the cardiologist. He thinks his brother needs to stop seeing me and see his NP instead.

Everyone is happy. The cardiologist made a lot of $$$, the patient was reassured, and the NP saw the patient in 5 minutes, while I spent 30 minutes trying to explain to the patient why he does not need all the testing etc.

This is part (only part) of why our healthcare system is really good and a terrible rip-off when it comes to value.

/end rant
Fee for service has got to go and no one should be allowed to graduate from medical school without demonstrating a basic understanding of statistics, particularly Bayesian ones.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Fee for service has got to go and no one should be allowed to graduate from medical school without demonstrating a basic understanding of statistics, particularly Bayesian ones.
replaced with provider capitated risk arrangements? Bundles? Mix of both?
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