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I'm sure you can say lots of things that are considered slurs somewhere. I've never actually encountered someone using that one unironically; is it still actually used? An exhaustive filter would be just about impossible.
Pretty sure I can write "spic-and-span" as well.
Pretty sure I can write "spic-and-span" as well.
You still can't say French Shower.
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Yes, agreed. And things like... can I talk about oriental rugs?
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#2854
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It's so interesting how what was "ok" a generation ago is "not ok" now, like above....or another good example....
You know how kids sit in a group cross-legged?? When I grew up, we all said it was "Indian Style," but apparently that is now offensive and it's "Criss Cross Apple Sauce," at least that is what my Gen Z kids tell me. Similar to the name concerns of certain professional football and baseball teams.
You know how kids sit in a group cross-legged?? When I grew up, we all said it was "Indian Style," but apparently that is now offensive and it's "Criss Cross Apple Sauce," at least that is what my Gen Z kids tell me. Similar to the name concerns of certain professional football and baseball teams.
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It's so interesting how what was "ok" a generation ago is "not ok" now, like above....or another good example....
You know how kids sit in a group cross-legged?? When I grew up, we all said it was "Indian Style," but apparently that is now offensive and it's "Criss Cross Apple Sauce," at least that is what my Gen Z kids tell me. Similar to the name concerns of certain professional football and baseball teams.
You know how kids sit in a group cross-legged?? When I grew up, we all said it was "Indian Style," but apparently that is now offensive and it's "Criss Cross Apple Sauce," at least that is what my Gen Z kids tell me. Similar to the name concerns of certain professional football and baseball teams.
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People in San Diego and surrounding areas refer to their city as Dago. In that context it’s not a slur. Just like people in New Orleans refer to their city as “Nawlins.”
If it’s offensive let me know, but nobody’s ever told me it is, including the family members who live there.
If it’s offensive let me know, but nobody’s ever told me it is, including the family members who live there.
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People in San Diego and surrounding areas refer to their city as Dago. In that context it’s not a slur. Just like people in New Orleans refer to their city as “Nawlins.”
If it’s offensive let me know, but nobody’s ever told me it is, including the family members who live there.
If it’s offensive let me know, but nobody’s ever told me it is, including the family members who live there.
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#2861
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I think a lot of how those became anachronistic is that people from Spain/Italy and Ireland stopped being "out groups".
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It's so interesting how what was "ok" a generation ago is "not ok" now, like above....or another good example....
You know how kids sit in a group cross-legged?? When I grew up, we all said it was "Indian Style," but apparently that is now offensive and it's "Criss Cross Apple Sauce," at least that is what my Gen Z kids tell me. Similar to the name concerns of certain professional football and baseball teams.
You know how kids sit in a group cross-legged?? When I grew up, we all said it was "Indian Style," but apparently that is now offensive and it's "Criss Cross Apple Sauce," at least that is what my Gen Z kids tell me. Similar to the name concerns of certain professional football and baseball teams.
I do find it fascinating that the Buffalo Bills, as in "kill kill kill till there's no more Indians left to be killed" haven't faced a peep.
There has been a bit about the Chiefs and Braves, but interestingly both of those could be logo-changed to firefighters and call it a day.
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Would be wonderful if we didn't just swap our (collective) biases around and got rid of them...
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Was out on a dog walk with my mother and AG. Halfway through, my phone rings.
It's my boss.
So I answer it expecting something bad.
No no, it's a promotion (Software Engineer III from II) and a 25% raise. I guess I need to be less grumpy for a while.
It's my boss.
So I answer it expecting something bad.
No no, it's a promotion (Software Engineer III from II) and a 25% raise. I guess I need to be less grumpy for a while.
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This is basically the polar opposite of "Raise? You're lucky we don't FIRE you!"
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Well, that's different. Been jacked around by employers myself.
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I do find it fascinating that the Buffalo Bills, as in "kill kill kill till there's no more Indians left to be killed" haven't faced a peep.
There has been a bit about the Chiefs and Braves, but interestingly both of those could be logo-changed to firefighters and call it a day.
There has been a bit about the Chiefs and Braves, but interestingly both of those could be logo-changed to firefighters and call it a day.
Similar situation with a lake that's in my neighborhood - it had been Lake Calhoun for as long as anyone alive could remember and no one really knew the origin of the name. A few years ago, the origin was brought to light - not only was it named after a guy that was a vile asshat, they guy had never even stepped foot in or had any real connection with the region or state. In less than a year, the lake's name was changed back to what the Native Americans called it before the area was settled by white folk. People have to know before they can care. (At the same time, a lot of people objected to the change because: it was too woke, they just didn't like change, nobody knew or cared about the guy and this was just giving him more shine than he deserved, etc.)
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Currently have quadball (formerly Quidicche) on. It’s a bit silly with all the players running around with broomsticks between their legs. One of my cycling friends has a kid that plays it.
Superhole is a better participatory sport since you get to hold a beer while playing.
Superhole is a better participatory sport since you get to hold a beer while playing.
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We switched from (horribly) caring about nationality to (horribly) caring only about skin color (or mostly). Lovecraft was horrified to find he had Welsh in him. Nowadays it's just "white". I had to explain to AG about the racist old man in Community being racist against Finns.
Would be wonderful if we didn't just swap our (collective) biases around and got rid of them...
Would be wonderful if we didn't just swap our (collective) biases around and got rid of them...
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I was in the YMCA Indian Guides and Princesses with my kids when they were young. For those that don’t know, it was all dads and their kids with separate programs for the boys and girls. No moms were ever involved which made it special in my mind. It went away when some Native American guy objected to it because we wore headbands and feathers at certain events.
I attribute a lot of the closeness I have with my kids to that program. We have a lot of very fond memories of the things we did together in the program, and it really taught us to respect and learn from each other.
We also learned a lot about Native American history, culture, and life in a very respectful way. Nothing derogatory toward the people or culture was ever permitted.
Ironically, the program was started and developed by a Native American, and then brought down by one.
I attribute a lot of the closeness I have with my kids to that program. We have a lot of very fond memories of the things we did together in the program, and it really taught us to respect and learn from each other.
We also learned a lot about Native American history, culture, and life in a very respectful way. Nothing derogatory toward the people or culture was ever permitted.
Ironically, the program was started and developed by a Native American, and then brought down by one.