Quick advice, please = is OA bath rinse important?
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Quick advice, please = is OA bath rinse important?
I put a bare frame in about 2" of an oxalic acid solution, left it overnight. It was sitting in the solution so that only the BB area, slightly into DT & ST and chainstays were submersed. Solution was 2 tablespoons of pure OA powder per gallon.
Without the story = after draining the OA from frame, and before the rinse I was called away and did not get back to the frame to rinse it. Early 70s Holdsworth Pro (R531). It has been almost 12 hours sitting outside in sun. Must I rinse now, or just leave it?
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edit: There was no external rust, but some internal around bb tube joins and in chainstays. I had previously brass brushed inside tubes and 'rust dust' and a few small rusted bits were present. Head tube was rust free, seat tube looked un-rusted as far down as I could see from seat lug.
Without the story = after draining the OA from frame, and before the rinse I was called away and did not get back to the frame to rinse it. Early 70s Holdsworth Pro (R531). It has been almost 12 hours sitting outside in sun. Must I rinse now, or just leave it?
TIA
edit: There was no external rust, but some internal around bb tube joins and in chainstays. I had previously brass brushed inside tubes and 'rust dust' and a few small rusted bits were present. Head tube was rust free, seat tube looked un-rusted as far down as I could see from seat lug.
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When I towel wiped inside the bb, there were no 'crystals'. And none on the exterior chromed chain stays. Just a thin yellowish 'film' of residue. Not sure what is in tubes beyond what can easily be seen.
(cannot find that old small dental mirror I used to have)
(cannot find that old small dental mirror I used to have)
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In a situation like this, I always default to "What could possibly go wrong?" The problem as I see it is that you have an acidic residue coating the frame, whether you can see crystals or not. That could definitely cause problems with the ensuing coats of paint. I vote for rinse.
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Think micro level, hard to see but it often will be there.
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OK, rinse and dry.
I will use boiled linseed oil in the chain stays after drying. And a little bit in the tubes near the bb.
thanks for fast - and unanimous - answers.
I will use boiled linseed oil in the chain stays after drying. And a little bit in the tubes near the bb.
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I go a step farther. First bathe it in solution of baking soda and water to neutralize the acid, then rinse with clean water. Might be overkill but it's easy.
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Rinsed with a baking soda solution, flushed well with water and drying in the sun. I think a few drops of linseed oil in each chain stay is a good idea, what I can see in the main tubes looks pretty clean. The frame is orange and much of what I thought was rust is orange paint and grime. The Holdsworthy paint shop in 1972 must have been a busy place.
My first OA bath, even tho' only part of the frame is complete. Maybe it wasn't really necessary, but the experience was good and I feel better for having done it.
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My first OA bath, even tho' only part of the frame is complete. Maybe it wasn't really necessary, but the experience was good and I feel better for having done it.
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My only concern would be the OA left in the tubes somehow making their way to aluminum bits and pieces and that is not a good combination. But you took care of that with the neutralizing rinse.
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