Why do so many drivers think speeding is safe?
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Well, if there are no rules of the road to violate, can you explain why they sometimes crash?
Make some effort to stop contradicting yourself, unless you want to continue to sound like an idiot.
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That said, you are apparently unaware of the difference between "rules of the road" and "laws of physics". The former govern how road users interact with each other, and the latter govern how objects behave -- among other things. Read up on both topics before attempting to continue, for your own sake.
I made no contradiction, at all. You, unfortunately, have demonstrated an inability to understand the topic at hand, and as a result, should ruminate for a while on the wisdom of resorting to name-calling.
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you are apparently unaware of the difference between "rules of the road" and "laws of physics". The former govern how road users interact with each other, and the latter govern how objects behave -- among other things. Read up on both topics before attempting to continue, for your own sake.
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It irks me that the one PSA I've never seen on those LED boards over the highway is one about following too close. You'd think they could come up with a clever slogan to drive that home. How many collisions could be avoided with proper following distances, regardless of speed?
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Second, the point is that the first part of your claim -- speed alone causing a crash -- is not possible with the rules of the road which exist in the US, and many other countries.
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Funny, I thought this thread was about "People's Perception of Risk." Frankly, that's been well studied in the context of finance, and the conclusion is that "people don't do risk rationally." So why should this be any different?
Anyone should admit that many factors affect the "risk of traveling faster than the sign indicates." Quality of the roadway, weather, visibility, crowding, familiarity, vehicle condition, operator skills... there's no end.
I don't know why that person there drives 10mph under the speed limit; their risk assessment is flawed.
I don't know why that person there drives 10mph over the speed limit, their risk assessment is flawed.
Oh, you drive exactly the speed limit. I say you are perfect, and I know everything.
Silliness. Be skilled, be careful and respect the social order.
Anyone should admit that many factors affect the "risk of traveling faster than the sign indicates." Quality of the roadway, weather, visibility, crowding, familiarity, vehicle condition, operator skills... there's no end.
I don't know why that person there drives 10mph under the speed limit; their risk assessment is flawed.
I don't know why that person there drives 10mph over the speed limit, their risk assessment is flawed.
Oh, you drive exactly the speed limit. I say you are perfect, and I know everything.
Silliness. Be skilled, be careful and respect the social order.
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Well, duh.
If you're obeying the rules of the road, you aren't speeding. Speed limits on public roads are set with the skill of the average driver, the mechanical ability of the average vehicle, and the average conditions of the road taken into consideration.
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, as I'm certain you will. You were the one that stated that speed alone would not cause a crash. I disagreed with that statement. Now, you're stating that a crash due to speed alone is not possible within the rules of the road (i.e.: speed limits).
See if you can puzzle out how that differs from your claim above.
Duh, indeed. Do us both a favor, and read more carefully before replying.
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Well, I hate to inform you, you are living a very sheltered life in NY. You should get out more… try parts of Asia, for example. 😉
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Primary cause of most accidents is lack or poor situational awareness of surroundings for a variety of reasons, including driving under the influence of mind/reaction altering substances. Higher the speed and greater the differential in speed between automobiles involved in an accidents, more the damage.
It would seem unbelievable to drivers in US but in general, we have far less situational awareness on roads here than good drivers do in Asia for simple reasons that in Asia, they have to account for and react to the insanely absurd behavior and actions of others from all around them, and still manage to complete the trip unscathed. Majority of the average US drivers who may consider themselves to be a safe driver here, wouldn’t survive a week of driving in a big city in Asia without getting involved in an accident.
It would seem unbelievable to drivers in US but in general, we have far less situational awareness on roads here than good drivers do in Asia for simple reasons that in Asia, they have to account for and react to the insanely absurd behavior and actions of others from all around them, and still manage to complete the trip unscathed. Majority of the average US drivers who may consider themselves to be a safe driver here, wouldn’t survive a week of driving in a big city in Asia without getting involved in an accident.
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A large part of the answer is because many drivers drive on interstates that were designed for 75 mph speed limits, but are posted at 55 or thereabouts. Many are also old enough to remember the NMSL, which artificially limited legal speeds well below roadways' design speeds. So many drivers have been unintentionally trained to regard speed limits with skepticism, or worse.
Also, it is actually impossible to crash due to speed alone, without violating at least one other rule of the road. Lazy cops cite speed as the cause of almost all crashes, but that's because they are constitutionally opposed to thinking and/or working. So, technically anyway, speeding is safe if the driver can manage to obey all the other rules.
Also, it is actually impossible to crash due to speed alone, without violating at least one other rule of the road. Lazy cops cite speed as the cause of almost all crashes, but that's because they are constitutionally opposed to thinking and/or working. So, technically anyway, speeding is safe if the driver can manage to obey all the other rules.
You are correct that speed is almost always suggested as a factor, much as CoVid was blamed for almost any and all deaths two years ago.
In the USA, 40% of pedestrian deaths involve an intoxicated pedestrian.
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Why do so many people think it's unsafe?.
The speed limit is a single value and the real world involves many variables. Sometimes the speed limit is well above what's actually safe based on conditions, and conversely, is well below what's safe.
The speed limit is a single value and the real world involves many variables. Sometimes the speed limit is well above what's actually safe based on conditions, and conversely, is well below what's safe.
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A bit of a nip is not the definition of being drunk or intoxicated, or evidence of fault in a fatal event except perhaps for a know-nothing good book thumper or some other dingy holy roller type character.
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Guess what? Speeding is very often NOT safe
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The speed limit represents a legal boundry and is a construct representing a balance between safety and convenience (or desire) for average drivers in average cars with average conditions. The real world safe speed can be higher or lower based on specifics.
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Here in the UK the motorway speed limit is an arbitrary 70 mph, which I often find is a complete joke in most conditions.
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Because they haven't worked in a ER for years...
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This is because that German drivers are the most displined anywhere in the world. Don't try to drive at anywhere under the speed limit in the left lane in Germany. It simply isn't done.