2024 Getting My Peugeot Ready to Ride
#51
Thanks for the pics. It's still a bit hard to see what all is there, but let's make a start.
First off, a bike in that condition needs to be stripped so that the bearings (wheel hubs, bottom bracket, headset) can be checked. They will at the least need to be cleaned and regreased, and possibly replaced.
First off, a bike in that condition needs to be stripped so that the bearings (wheel hubs, bottom bracket, headset) can be checked. They will at the least need to be cleaned and regreased, and possibly replaced.
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Watching Videos on Rebuilding Peugeot U08
Ultimate Master Craftsman U08 Restoration - Vintage Peugeot Bicycle Restoration & Ride
How to remove vintage cranks. Shimano, Sugino, Suntour, T.A., Stronglight and more!
1) Remove bolt + Separate Washer - if not removed - washer can strip crank threads with puller tool -
2) Install inner part by hand - must be correctly in threads or will strip the threads
3) Use adj wrench to tighten snug - not turn at normal pressure
4) Screw in middle puller shaft
5) Leverage hold crank arm while pulling the puller tool arm forcing the center shaft through against the BB Spindle
6) Pushing the crank off the spindle
21:02 - Bearings - grade 25 American - cheap ones will crack and destroy the races
How To Overhaul Vintage Peugeot Bike Headset
5:10 - Stem
Local Bike shop - matched cage bearding from the top
Stem Bottom Cup - 24 Loose Bearings (2 bearing gap) 5/32
Marine Grease with a Dualco Mini Grease Gun
Ultimate Master Craftsman U08 Restoration - Vintage Peugeot Bicycle Restoration & Ride
How to remove vintage cranks. Shimano, Sugino, Suntour, T.A., Stronglight and more!
2) Install inner part by hand - must be correctly in threads or will strip the threads
3) Use adj wrench to tighten snug - not turn at normal pressure
4) Screw in middle puller shaft
5) Leverage hold crank arm while pulling the puller tool arm forcing the center shaft through against the BB Spindle
6) Pushing the crank off the spindle
21:02 - Bearings - grade 25 American - cheap ones will crack and destroy the races
How To Overhaul Vintage Peugeot Bike Headset
5:10 - Stem
Local Bike shop - matched cage bearding from the top
Stem Bottom Cup - 24 Loose Bearings (2 bearing gap) 5/32
Marine Grease with a Dualco Mini Grease Gun
Last edited by Liquidfusion; 05-26-24 at 04:20 AM.
#55
You can lock both bike wheels to the frame to a steel pole. In a place like NYC - high crime - do you remove the saddle (Allen wrench and it comes off) when locking up your bike in the street?
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Lots of questions! But it seems you're finding most of the answers you need. Here are a couple more. With regard to a front wheel, you should check local Craigslist for a standard 700c wheel with an aluminum rim. Look for one that more or less matches the width of the Campagnolo rim, and look for a box (double wall) construction. You'll want to check it to be sure it is true. And you'll need to do a couple things to fit a modern wheel in the Peugeot forks. The modern hub is a bit wider than the old French standard, so you'll need to muscle it into place by spreading the fork legs. Also, the axle is a bit bigger in diameter than the old French axle, so you'll need to file open the dropout. Not hard, but takes a half hour or so. The pic shows the double wall of a rim:
Next, the chain. Any decent 8 speed chain will work. I like SRAM. (8 speed chains have the right width for 5-7 speed freewheels and cassettes, not just 8 speeds.)
Finally, the downtube shifters. When stock the bike had a square brazed-on stop on the right side of the down tube. The shifters came with a band that wrapped around that stop and held the left hand stop. It was made this way to allow Peugeot to sell bikes with 5 speeds using hthe same frame. Does your bike still have the brazed on stop? If so, you'll first want to find a Simplex shifter band, with or without levers. This pic shows what originally came on the bike:
But you will see that the levers are made with delrin, a plastic. They frequently broke. So you might be better off getting the band by itself and putting on different levers. NOTE: the braze on stop and the band use bolts that are not standard metric, so make sure the band and or the levers come with the proper bolts.
Next, the chain. Any decent 8 speed chain will work. I like SRAM. (8 speed chains have the right width for 5-7 speed freewheels and cassettes, not just 8 speeds.)
Finally, the downtube shifters. When stock the bike had a square brazed-on stop on the right side of the down tube. The shifters came with a band that wrapped around that stop and held the left hand stop. It was made this way to allow Peugeot to sell bikes with 5 speeds using hthe same frame. Does your bike still have the brazed on stop? If so, you'll first want to find a Simplex shifter band, with or without levers. This pic shows what originally came on the bike:
But you will see that the levers are made with delrin, a plastic. They frequently broke. So you might be better off getting the band by itself and putting on different levers. NOTE: the braze on stop and the band use bolts that are not standard metric, so make sure the band and or the levers come with the proper bolts.
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Front Wheel
Normandy Hub - Quick Release
What about cleaning the wheel and adding a new tire? - Saves buying a new front wheel
This front wheel already on the bike can then go with either the rear wheel with a new tire or the compagnola wheel 700c with a new tire
Normandy Hub - Quick Release
What about cleaning the wheel and adding a new tire? - Saves buying a new front wheel
This front wheel already on the bike can then go with either the rear wheel with a new tire or the compagnola wheel 700c with a new tire
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If that's an alloy rim, I'd try to save that wheel (overhaul hub, true the wheel). The best part for a bike is usually the one you have in hand.
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Summer 2024 Project
Estimated Cost for Repair / Rebuild
235.00 = Tools
175.00 = Parts
120.00 = Lock
90.00 = Helmet
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620.00 = SAVE!!!
Tires + Brake Pads are the parts to add that must be new - or in very good shape.
Thoughts on Tools - The right tools are needed to do BB / Crank Removal / Headset work - to endure French Threads are not stripped accidentally. One example: be sure to have a washer come out with the bolt holding the crank to the spindle, otherwise, when pulling the crank, threads can be stripped. People here know about French bikes. Cost Tools = 235.00 = an investment in continued ability to do bike maintenance with this U08.
Plan to take apart, clean, rebuild with new marine grease and ball bearings - both the bottom bracket as well as the headset on the front fork
Estimated Cost for Repair / Rebuild
235.00 = Tools
175.00 = Parts
120.00 = Lock
90.00 = Helmet
___________________
620.00 = SAVE!!!
Tires + Brake Pads are the parts to add that must be new - or in very good shape.
Thoughts on Tools - The right tools are needed to do BB / Crank Removal / Headset work - to endure French Threads are not stripped accidentally. One example: be sure to have a washer come out with the bolt holding the crank to the spindle, otherwise, when pulling the crank, threads can be stripped. People here know about French bikes. Cost Tools = 235.00 = an investment in continued ability to do bike maintenance with this U08.
Plan to take apart, clean, rebuild with new marine grease and ball bearings - both the bottom bracket as well as the headset on the front fork
Last edited by Liquidfusion; 05-26-24 at 05:28 PM.
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Rear Wheel : Do I keep the rear wheel and put on a new tire or use the 700C with a new tire?
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Evaporust is good for rust issues. I'd reuse the original wheels (front and rear) as long as they are alloy and are reasonably true. I'd try to buy as few parts as possible and if I needed parts, I'd scrounge around for something second hand.
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Need to count the links in the chain I have. Read get 116 links and lose a few. What SRAM chain do you recommend? Thanks!
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Re the wheels. If you keep the originals and they are aluminum, clean the brake tracks well with fine steel wool to get them clean and smooth. It will really help with braking.
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This bike was kept dirty and rough looking (by its former owner) to avoid theft in NYC. Add to that, it's been standing in a dusty NYC hallway for 20 years.
Used Joe Blow air pump - Tires are holding air!!! Will get new tires / brake pads before I ride on this bike.
Used Joe Blow air pump - Tires are holding air!!! Will get new tires / brake pads before I ride on this bike.
Last edited by Liquidfusion; 05-26-24 at 06:10 PM.
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This is est cost to get bike up and running without BB / Headset work now
Summer 2024 - UPDATED - Bare Bones - Gets Bike on the Road
Summer 2024 - UPDATED - Bare Bones - Gets Bike on the Road
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When I have a more stable budget - I will do a Bottom Bracket / Headset rebuild - with new Marine grease and New Ball bearings
Summer / Fall - 2024 - Est Cost
Summer / Fall - 2024 - Est Cost
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Very nice! My father got me a Peugeot in Germany around 1973 or so. Had it repainted in Japan and rode it up to 2021 when it was stolen in the States by the movers.
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