How fast is fast?
05-06-09, 08:13 AM
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You would have to set some constants. Say flat land, no wind, 1 hour, alone.
Then you might be able to estimate what the average working speed would be for a rec rider, cat 5, cat 2, pro.
For me, being a rec rider, would average around 17 mph in the above conditions.
Then you might be able to estimate what the average working speed would be for a rec rider, cat 5, cat 2, pro.
For me, being a rec rider, would average around 17 mph in the above conditions.
05-06-09, 08:15 AM
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I am slower solo than when drafting...
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05-06-09, 08:16 AM
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ah.... sure.
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So I completely discounted your previous post and you reply with something irrelevant. Bottom line is even a cat 5 crit will likely be in the mid-to-high 20s. The elite nationals road race last year was I believe 26 mph for over 100 miles and that's on a hilly course without any pros.
05-06-09, 08:22 AM
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But more importantly, I want to know from where you pulled that "quote" before.
05-06-09, 08:26 AM
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I was reading a book about the history of the tdf and the majority of yrs from the beginning to the current-avg speed around 40k/hr which is about 25mph. When lance won he pushed the avg to about 42h/hr.
05-06-09, 08:31 AM
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First you said..
And now...
You saying that a 1 hour crit is the same as the entire TdF?
You saying that a 1 hour crit is the same as the entire TdF?
05-06-09, 09:01 AM
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Its Freakin HammerTime!!!
Im fast as #@%
like 16mph.
lol,really.Thats all.
Pretty hilly here. Thats my excuse.
like 16mph.
lol,really.Thats all.
Pretty hilly here. Thats my excuse.
05-06-09, 09:17 AM
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Every race I have been in this year has been 24-26 mph at a cat 4 level in the flat midwest (read "slow")
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05-06-09, 09:30 AM
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05-06-09, 09:57 AM
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Maybe a better question would have been what is considered fast for a single rider on flat land with no wind on a road bike riding for 1 hour?
In those conditions, what would be fast for a cat 5 rider? A cat 4, a cat 3, etc.
What would be fast for a pro?
S-
In those conditions, what would be fast for a cat 5 rider? A cat 4, a cat 3, etc.
What would be fast for a pro?
S-
05-06-09, 10:04 AM
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The mistake most people make is in thinking that race bikes are made to go fast. They're not...they're made to win races. There's a difference.
I read that somewhere...don't remember where, but I liked it.
On the other hand, I'm a 20mph average kinda guy (on good days and centuries...with traffic and whatnot I usually average 16 over my commute, with top speeds around 30+), so I neither win races nor am I fast. But, most of my riding is commuting, or on century rides and the like. I don't actually race anyway.
I read that somewhere...don't remember where, but I liked it.
On the other hand, I'm a 20mph average kinda guy (on good days and centuries...with traffic and whatnot I usually average 16 over my commute, with top speeds around 30+), so I neither win races nor am I fast. But, most of my riding is commuting, or on century rides and the like. I don't actually race anyway.
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05-06-09, 10:42 AM
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In bikes, you have similar concepts... TT bikes that are optimized for speed sacrifice comfort and handling. Bikes that are made to be stiff for sprinting are often heavy and bikes that are optimized for weight are usually not as aerodynamic. It's all tradeoffs, and races are not usually won by TT'ing away from everyone.
05-06-09, 11:00 AM
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It's something I read. The gist being that the purpose of the race bike is to enable the rider to get the most out of himself, whether sprinting, climbing, cornering, etc.
In other words, I thought it was a clever way of saying that speed is about the "engine".
In other words, I thought it was a clever way of saying that speed is about the "engine".
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05-06-09, 11:05 AM
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Well, I'm not fast enough, that's for sure.
Maybe I just need those trick bullhorn handlebars, 700x35 tires, and that "Dodge Viper" engine...
Maybe I just need those trick bullhorn handlebars, 700x35 tires, and that "Dodge Viper" engine...
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He knew a little about winning bike races. He didn't care how fast it went as long as it was at least a little bit faster than the next guy (usually Raymond Poulidor).
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