The limits of being car free
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It's actually the other way round. As I see it, y'all's are the Trolls. Coming in here with unsolicited anecdotes about how being car free was such a bother it just had to end. So sad. The forum is called Living Car Free and y'all's are doing anything but. So save me the faux peevement. 33 years car free + 20 years car lite (very) with 10 off the top, out of 63 total. That's CRED. But you have never seen me throw that down till today. I GET that you can't save the planet on your own, but come on ... you live in the SOUTH! How's that working for ya? Maybe when the water is up to your hubcaps you will say ... hmmm,, maybe it's time to get an airboat ... <smh>
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I've been Car Free since 2005. I got around on motorscooters and motorcycles. Now I've added a beach cruiser and an ebike for neighborhood riding and commuting respectively. I think both bicycles will keep me young. I use grocery deliver, and do online purchase for large delivery items. I use public transportation, rent a car, and uber as back up if I need to get around further distances or if my motorcycles are in the shop.
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Almost $450 for new front tires on the 08' CRV tomorrow. Been a long time since tires were replaced. I usually only drive when it's a lot to carry from grocery store, or the usual god awful mid atlantic summer weather. Deep snow, and lots of ice I am in the car. Shrug.
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I spent four years car free. I was car free by choice I wanted to see how I could manage without a car. Well I did manage fairly well, but eventually got a car again. Why? There are a number of factors; for one age. I'll be 73 in a few months, and I might have to have a car. Things happen. Another, and perhaps most important factor, is safety. It is becoming more dangerous to ride. There are more and more cars, they seem to be going faster. and the drivers are not in control of their vehicles. There are places I want to go, but just are not safe by bicycle. There are also times that are not safe to bike, eg. rush hours and school opening. so I got a car. I still cycle and use public transportation, but I now drive when necessary.
From my perspective it's like hearing an alcoholic decide that he's going to start drunk-driving rather than walking home, because when he blacks out the airbag would be nicer to hit his head on than the pavement.
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This is odd to read. At 73 you are at an advanced age which slows your reaction times down significantly. It's also the age range where dementia starts kicking in, if you're unfortunate enough to catch it. This is not a time to start driving, it's a time to hand your license back.
From my perspective it's like hearing an alcoholic decide that he's going to start drunk-driving rather than walking home, because when he blacks out the airbag would be nicer to hit his head on than the pavement.
From my perspective it's like hearing an alcoholic decide that he's going to start drunk-driving rather than walking home, because when he blacks out the airbag would be nicer to hit his head on than the pavement.
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This is odd to read. At 73 you are at an advanced age which slows your reaction times down significantly. It's also the age range where dementia starts kicking in, if you're unfortunate enough to catch it. This is not a time to start driving, it's a time to hand your license back.
From my perspective it's like hearing an alcoholic decide that he's going to start drunk-driving rather than walking home, because when he blacks out the airbag would be nicer to hit his head on than the pavement.
From my perspective it's like hearing an alcoholic decide that he's going to start drunk-driving rather than walking home, because when he blacks out the airbag would be nicer to hit his head on than the pavement.
I don't consider 73 to be an advanced age.
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This is odd to read. At 73 you are at an advanced age which slows your reaction times down significantly. It's also the age range where dementia starts kicking in, if you're unfortunate enough to catch it. This is not a time to start driving, it's a time to hand your license back.
From my perspective it's like hearing an alcoholic decide that he's going to start drunk-driving rather than walking home, because when he blacks out the airbag would be nicer to hit his head on than the pavement.
From my perspective it's like hearing an alcoholic decide that he's going to start drunk-driving rather than walking home, because when he blacks out the airbag would be nicer to hit his head on than the pavement.
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It's funny how many compliments I get using the home-built cargo trailer I put together when we show up at Wal Mart to get food and supplies, then it really blows them away when we explain we can't AFFORD a car (payment, insurance, maintenance, etc.) now that we are on a very fixed income, retiring on our Social Security Retirement Income only!! Do we miss our 30 year old, mega miles Ford Ranger PU, yes but that's the past. We do miss not being able to load up the trikes for out of town or trips to different States and truck/van rentals have gone insane since Covid19 came on!!! At almost 70, we ain't FAST, LOL but we get around for both transportation and recreation via our HPV's (Human Powered Vehicles) and manage to survive with a SMILE!
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I just finished being about as car free as one can be in Houston, TX. I went 8 months without a vehicle (my car was hit by lightening in the driveway and has been in the shop ever since.) We are a 2 car household, but my wife is a road warrior and drives a fair amount of the time, and working from home, I needed another way to get around. Figured I'd go back to riding since most of what I need is in a 3-5 mile radius of the house; including my bars! Overall I'd say I was about 85% car free over the 8 months. Even though I broke down and bought a newer personal vehicle, I'm still riding alot more than I was before my car went into the shop and I'm taking advantage of the weather right now.
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#37
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I went 8 months car-free when I lived in a smaller college town. I was able to get around everywhere I needed via bike, walking, or the city bus. It was honestly really nice, and I hated leaving that town for a bigger city, but job opportunities were just not there.
It's necessary to have a car where I'm at now. There are a couple areas closer to the city where people can live car-free without much trouble, but problem is they're very high COL areas, so I'd just be trading one expense for an even bigger one.
It's necessary to have a car where I'm at now. There are a couple areas closer to the city where people can live car-free without much trouble, but problem is they're very high COL areas, so I'd just be trading one expense for an even bigger one.
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I don't know if the wife and I can go completely "car free" up here in Canada. If anything we can get rid of a few cars but will need at least one as we head towards retirement.
Here's a pic of a typical light dusting of snow we get up here during the Winter.....
Here's a pic of a typical light dusting of snow we get up here during the Winter.....