Handlebar Bag Stand-Off?
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This is what I came up with. There's a good 2 inches / 8 cm of clearance over the tire, and nothing rubs. It's ugly, but should do the trick.
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And no matter what you think of the aesthetics, it's unseen under your tent and out of sight. You don't need to put the tent bag in a plastic bag or something? Or is the msr bag waterproof?
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Damn good job, and ugly it ain't. It's actually fairly elegant looking and you did a nice even job of bending the aluminium tubes equally .Nice touch with the clear tubing to stop scratching/rubbing.
And no matter what you think of the aesthetics, it's unseen under your tent and out of sight. You don't need to put the tent bag in a plastic bag or something? Or is the msr bag waterproof?
And no matter what you think of the aesthetics, it's unseen under your tent and out of sight. You don't need to put the tent bag in a plastic bag or something? Or is the msr bag waterproof?
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handy, I kind of figured it would be if it is designed to go right onto bars.
I would watch for pressure point / rubbing spots where the two rods touch the bag, just because they are quite narrow, so "could" abraid the bag material over thousands of cycles of perhaps friction type movement. If you have concerns, you can easily put some sort of something between the two rods and the bag where you see rubbing occurs.
A small piece of foam, whatever is light and would do the job. Again, it would be out of sight under the bag. Foam doesnt absorb water and is perfect for vibrations.
Improvisation is an important thing in bike touring, and you've shown you can already think up of things and make them.
Have a fun trip when you go.
I would watch for pressure point / rubbing spots where the two rods touch the bag, just because they are quite narrow, so "could" abraid the bag material over thousands of cycles of perhaps friction type movement. If you have concerns, you can easily put some sort of something between the two rods and the bag where you see rubbing occurs.
A small piece of foam, whatever is light and would do the job. Again, it would be out of sight under the bag. Foam doesnt absorb water and is perfect for vibrations.
Improvisation is an important thing in bike touring, and you've shown you can already think up of things and make them.
Have a fun trip when you go.
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You might need to bend the bottom segments out wider if your load is not perfectly balanced for weight in the center, but that is something you could do on a trip if needed.
Very nice.
If it bounces on bumps, you might need to run a strap to the back side of the steerer tube to hold the tent from moving forward. I suggest you bring a strap or piece of cord that it a couple feet long on your trip, just in case it is needed.
You deserve the award for best DIY project for the year for this forum, but unfortunately no such award exists.
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oh, perhaps think about putting some layers of electric tape or whatever on the bars under the top curve of the tubes, in case even with the tubing it rubs off some of the black paint on the bars. Easy insurance.
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An update, for anyone who is curious. The hanger (and the tent/bag) survived the trip, which turned out to be 6 days of mostly gravel. The hanger deformed a little, but did its job of keeping the bag off of the tire. One of the J hooks relaxed, or unbent a little. Also, the part that hangs over the handlebar bent more and tightened around the handlebar, so it had to be unbent a little to remove it from the bike. The conclusion is that this aluminum is too soft for the purpose. However, when I formed the hanger I had heated the aluminum to bend it more easily without cracking, and I suppose that might have annealed it to make it softer (what little I know about metallurgy is for metals other than aluminum).
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An update, for anyone who is curious. The hanger (and the tent/bag) survived the trip, which turned out to be 6 days of mostly gravel. The hanger deformed a little, but did its job of keeping the bag off of the tire. One of the J hooks relaxed, or unbent a little. Also, the part that hangs over the handlebar bent more and tightened around the handlebar, so it had to be unbent a little to remove it from the bike. The conclusion is that this aluminum is too soft for the purpose. However, when I formed the hanger I had heated the aluminum to bend it more easily without cracking, and I suppose that might have annealed it to make it softer (what little I know about metallurgy is for metals other than aluminum).
The one I made which is in a prior post was 5/16 diameter. I did not heat it. The most I have had on it was roughly 5 pounds.
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No, FedEx lost it. I suspect it would not be better, because without support underneath, I suspect the bag will eventually sag to the point where it makes contact with the tire, no matter how far forward it is held. That's only a supposition, however, since I didn't receive it to test.
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An update, for anyone who is curious. The hanger (and the tent/bag) survived the trip, which turned out to be 6 days of mostly gravel. The hanger deformed a little, but did its job of keeping the bag off of the tire. One of the J hooks relaxed, or unbent a little. Also, the part that hangs over the handlebar bent more and tightened around the handlebar, so it had to be unbent a little to remove it from the bike. The conclusion is that this aluminum is too soft for the purpose. However, when I formed the hanger I had heated the aluminum to bend it more easily without cracking, and I suppose that might have annealed it to make it softer (what little I know about metallurgy is for metals other than aluminum).
i used the oldfangled style bar bags that used a steel rod support, with bungee cords down to hooks at the dropouts, for years. carried 5-8 pounds, including SLR camera with 200mm lens, with no issues.
switch material should solve your problem.
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handlebar bar hanger supports are typically made of steel rod.
i used the oldfangled style bar bags that used a steel rod support, with bungee cords down to hooks at the dropouts, for years. carried 5-8 pounds, including SLR camera with 200mm lens, with no issues.
switch material should solve your problem.
i used the oldfangled style bar bags that used a steel rod support, with bungee cords down to hooks at the dropouts, for years. carried 5-8 pounds, including SLR camera with 200mm lens, with no issues.
switch material should solve your problem.
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handlebar bar hanger supports are typically made of steel rod.
i used the oldfangled style bar bags that used a steel rod support, with bungee cords down to hooks at the dropouts, for years. carried 5-8 pounds, including SLR camera with 200mm lens, with no issues.
switch material should solve your problem.
i used the oldfangled style bar bags that used a steel rod support, with bungee cords down to hooks at the dropouts, for years. carried 5-8 pounds, including SLR camera with 200mm lens, with no issues.
switch material should solve your problem.
Photo below was the bar bag that I used the steel DIY bracket on. But I was using a digital camara for this photo, one of those new inventions, high end camera with 3 megapixel resolution. Photo from 2010.
That FrontRoller pannier looks very clean, that might have been the first trip it was used on.
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I once hauled home from UPS, an identical folding frame that had been boxed and shipped, strapped down to the front rack platform and to the tall handlepost behind it.
If I tour, I may carry my tent with my foam sleeping pad rolled around it, strapped *vertically* in front.
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On Apr 26 I said:
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I once hauled home from UPS, an identical folding frame that had been boxed and shipped, strapped down to the front rack platform and to the tall handlepost behind it.
If I tour, I may carry my tent with my foam sleeping pad rolled around it, strapped *vertically* in front.
Why are you taking this out of context a few weeks later to compare to a tiny wheel bike when the issue clearly was smaller riders with smaller size 700c bikes have much less room between their handlebar and tire to hang stuff bikepacking style than larger riders with larger size frames?
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There is a huge variation in how high people have their handlebars above the front tire. Smaller riders with 700c tires have to worry much more about their luggage and tire clearance up front, and also behind for saddle bags.
I once hauled home from UPS, an identical folding frame that had been boxed and shipped, strapped down to the front rack platform and to the tall handlepost behind it.
If I tour, I may carry my tent with my foam sleeping pad rolled around it, strapped *vertically* in front.
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