The Collection Reduction Support/Encouragement/Accountability thread!
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This is a great plan! But I'd also first like to ask how you plan to make your selection of bikes - is it based on year, size, tubing, ride quality, rarity, favorites, etc? How do you see yourself getting down to the 3, or even that final 1?
There is really no rhyme or reason to the selection process in my own mind, other that if a bike rides amazing. But even then, like the PX-10, which is really dialed in and a fun, tactile ride, I'm considering letting it go.
I wonder if anyone has ever just put every single one up for sale, and just kept the last one standing. What a way that would be!
There is really no rhyme or reason to the selection process in my own mind, other that if a bike rides amazing. But even then, like the PX-10, which is really dialed in and a fun, tactile ride, I'm considering letting it go.
I wonder if anyone has ever just put every single one up for sale, and just kept the last one standing. What a way that would be!
Thanks! Bike selection is a few things. 0) Must truly enjoy it, regardless of provenance. 1) 65-67cm CTT only. 2) Clearly defined roles. 3) Able to accept modern components/component swapping is easy
'82 Trek 720 (the Queen), '85 Trek 620 (modified, fender and do-it-all bike), '80 Trek 510 (light, fast, comfortable, Di2 parts hanger) -- The three are chosen, so it's a matter of making sure the rest go to new homes.
In late 2020 I got down to one bike, my former '74 Paramount P15-9, as well as not very many spare parts. Lots of room, but a bit boring! Then I found the '85 620 as a frameset and swapped components over. Eye-opening from a stability standpoint. It also fit me better as it measured 65cm vs the Paramount's 63.5cm (less Technomic stem exposure and gawky proportions).
I'm getting out of the race bike game as, for me, the overall comfort and out-of-saddle dynamics are inferior to my larger tire Treks. Also, Reynolds 531 trumps all, try as I might with other tubing, save for the Ishiwata 022-tubed 510 which 'needed' RS81 C24 wheels and nice 32mm tires to bring out the frame's best. All bikes are completely non-original in their componentry, and built to the hilt. That makes them much harder to pare down since years of time, thought, and money have been poured into them. If I really needed to get to one bike, it would likely be the 620 due to its versatility and my monetary investment in it (frame work, powder coat, decals). Of the three, the 510 would go first, then the 720 (which would be tragic), but I'd keep the Di2 for the 620 and find some way to put a compatible long cage on the 9070 rear derailleur so I could run 32 and 34t cassettes.
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Okay, just dropped 3 frames off. They are all gaspipe garbage. Which hurts even more.
Pics or it didn’t happen.
"What were their names?"
Here is my eulogy -
Rekord - You were some random W. German gas pipe, bike boom contraption w/ a bunch of French parts thrown on it. Gonna miss you, but I had a window of opportunity and didn't take it. Great decals. Bad spelling.
Huffy Strider S2000 - yes, a Huffy *sniff* but don't worry, it will come back to all of you in the form of the tin cans holding your corn and beans. I'm well covered on the Huffy front. Besides, this thing was even heavier than the Huffente!
Azuki - This one did a heroic job of performing a sacrifice as a surgery donor for emergency brazing practice in preparation for repairing the Huffente. Job well done. *salute*
Previous numbers:
Bikes: 20
Frames: 7
Last Bike Purchased: Dec 2023
Now:
Bikes: 20
Frames: 4
Last Bike Purchased: Dec 2023
Pics or it didn’t happen.
"What were their names?"
Here is my eulogy -
Rekord - You were some random W. German gas pipe, bike boom contraption w/ a bunch of French parts thrown on it. Gonna miss you, but I had a window of opportunity and didn't take it. Great decals. Bad spelling.
Huffy Strider S2000 - yes, a Huffy *sniff* but don't worry, it will come back to all of you in the form of the tin cans holding your corn and beans. I'm well covered on the Huffy front. Besides, this thing was even heavier than the Huffente!
Azuki - This one did a heroic job of performing a sacrifice as a surgery donor for emergency brazing practice in preparation for repairing the Huffente. Job well done. *salute*
Previous numbers:
Bikes: 20
Frames: 7
Last Bike Purchased: Dec 2023
Now:
Bikes: 20
Frames: 4
Last Bike Purchased: Dec 2023
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Current most recent posts in Schroedinger's C&V:
- https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...l#post23174831
- https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...l#post23174837
Sorry, you need to be more specific to stand out in this crowd
All jokes aside, great thread idea AdventureManCO... steady success is the secret to sustained success. Achieved N-2 last month (but couldn't resist +1 from these pages recently). Will post numbers as soon as quantity drops down to something I'm not too embarrassed to admit in public
- https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...l#post23174831
- https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...l#post23174837
All jokes aside, great thread idea AdventureManCO... steady success is the secret to sustained success. Achieved N-2 last month (but couldn't resist +1 from these pages recently). Will post numbers as soon as quantity drops down to something I'm not too embarrassed to admit in public
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And for what its worth, I "only" added 6-7 in the last year, 3 are Paramounts one of which was basically given to me so.....
2-3 are parts donors and 2-3 are for other folks, so again......
What was the question again?
2-3 are parts donors and 2-3 are for other folks, so again......
What was the question again?
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AdventureManCO Thanks for the post. I appreciate the public acknowledgment that it’s possible to have so many bikes that they become a burden. I’ve got one that is on the way to a new home as soon as handoff details can be worked out. Got a couple of others that I think might get some more use if they belonged to someone else. Here’s my question: you offered up a load of bikes recently, and it seemed like they went all over the country. About how much was the shipping cost on each, if you don’t mind sharing. It might help me move a frame or two if I could post say” shipping about X to east, y to west, etc.”
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Getting some bites on 2 bikes I have listed for sale, fingers crossed, If they show up I will make sure they leave with the bikes! Dragged 4 more out of the garage for assessment/maintenance/stripping as needed.
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6-7 is pretty good! 2021-2023 were very, ahem, 'active' years for me. But then again, I can imagine it might be a lot harder if the level of bikes being acquired are akin to your or jamesdak 's level, something very high tier, or something from a specific builder, very rare, or all the above.
I'm sure you would feel obligated to either sell for a very specific price, or find *just* the right person to give something to, both of which may take a bit of time.
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6-7 is pretty good! 2021-2023 were very, ahem, 'active' years for me. But then again, I can imagine it might be a lot harder if the level of bikes being acquired are akin to your or jamesdak 's level, something very high tier, or something from a specific builder, very rare, or all the above.
I'm sure you would feel obligated to either sell for a very specific price, or find *just* the right person to give something to, both of which may take a bit of time.
I'm sure you would feel obligated to either sell for a very specific price, or find *just* the right person to give something to, both of which may take a bit of time.
I had no delusions, it was what it was and got done, no regrets and no expectation on returns.
The biggest problem will be that many of the very special ones won't and can't fit my son for being too big, but a few will and a few won't matter if he decides to keep them for what they are.
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Of course, this thread is going to inspire folks to sell. We will see some nice bikes on the sales section and prices will be greatly depressed. It will be a buying opportunity for those 50 year old youngsters.
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See, I think it depends on application and resources. Someone that displays museum-quality bicycles, they may easily have 30-50 or more, but it fits with what they are trying to do. I've got less than that, but almost every one is in some hodgepodge state. Less than ideal. I need to get below my means. How I admire the person who can make one bike work for them!
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See, I think it depends on application and resources. Someone that displays museum-quality bicycles, they may easily have 30-50 or more, but it fits with what they are trying to do. I've got less than that, but almost every one is in some hodgepodge state. Less than ideal. I need to get below my means. How I admire the person who can make one bike work for them!
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note: that limitation was adopted as a guideline. anything else has to meet some considered "need" and be in the correct size for the purpose.
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You may be in luck (out of luck?), as I recall that it's a 23" frameset (CTT) - too small for me, anyway.
Message me if you are interested, I'd be happy to measure it for you tonight. But be forewarned, if that happens, that I'll show up in your driveway this weekend with the frameset and a box of parts.
Message me if you are interested, I'd be happy to measure it for you tonight. But be forewarned, if that happens, that I'll show up in your driveway this weekend with the frameset and a box of parts.
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AdventureManCO Thanks for the post. I appreciate the public acknowledgment that it’s possible to have so many bikes that they become a burden. I’ve got one that is on the way to a new home as soon as handoff details can be worked out. Got a couple of others that I think might get some more use if they belonged to someone else. Here’s my question: you offered up a load of bikes recently, and it seemed like they went all over the country. About how much was the shipping cost on each, if you don’t mind sharing. It might help me move a frame or two if I could post say” shipping about X to east, y to west, etc.”
thanks
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Yeah, I have a problem lol. It wouldn't feel like a problem if I had the space and organizational bandwidth. Alas, I find myself stumbling over bikes and knocking things around and I'm sort of shooting myself in the foot by negating more of the enjoyment factor. I also learned recently that STIs don't help with that ratio either
Regarding shipping, I'm about to find out what a few full bikes cost, as compared to just a frame. I will say this: dimensions matter more than weight, so the smaller the box, the less cost incurred, all other things being equal. Even when weight was more, I found the price not changing. But the size? Once you are over certain measurements, you start incurring additional fees. I found the sweet spot to be equal to, or less than, these measurements:
Length: 48"
Width: 10"
Height: 30"
Cost was around $65-$85, depending on where it was going. Plug in your numbers to both Ship Pirate and BikeFlights, those two seem to be the best for rates.
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I only wish folks to jump in and come along for the ride if they think it can help them. As much as it may seem, I'm not one to advocate for a minimalistic approach to biycles, or collecting in general. I've read over 10+ minimalism books and hoping to gain a deeper appreciation for the practice. My biggest critique of the 'get rid of it' philosophy is that if everyone truly took that practice seriously, heirlooms wouldn't exist, and much of history (at least in a tactile sense) would be lost, because it would have simply been thrown away. People that have big collections, like jjhabbs ? I'm very thankful that there are people in a position to preserve the value of the past, it is awesome! I just want to stop tripping over bikes lol.
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You may be in luck (out of luck?), as I recall that it's a 23" frameset (CTT) - too small for me, anyway.
Message me if you are interested, I'd be happy to measure it for you tonight. But be forewarned, if that happens, that I'll show up in your driveway this weekend with the frameset and a box of parts.
Message me if you are interested, I'd be happy to measure it for you tonight. But be forewarned, if that happens, that I'll show up in your driveway this weekend with the frameset and a box of parts.
If I may...
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The admiration comes from the joy found in simplicity. The basic nature of contentment found in having little. Or maybe it's just 'ignorance is bliss', but I guarantee that their garage is cleaner than mine!
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Yeah, I have a problem lol. It wouldn't feel like a problem if I had the space and organizational bandwidth. Alas, I find myself stumbling over bikes and knocking things around and I'm sort of shooting myself in the foot by negating more of the enjoyment factor. I also learned recently that STIs don't help with that ratio either
Regarding shipping, I'm about to find out what a few full bikes cost, as compared to just a frame. I will say this: dimensions matter more than weight, so the smaller the box, the less cost incurred, all other things being equal. Even when weight was more, I found the price not changing. But the size? Once you are over certain measurements, you start incurring additional fees. I found the sweet spot to be equal to, or less than, these measurements:
Length: 48"
Width: 10"
Height: 30"
Cost was around $65-$85, depending on where it was going. Plug in your numbers to both Ship Pirate and BikeFlights, those two seem to be the best for rates.
Regarding shipping, I'm about to find out what a few full bikes cost, as compared to just a frame. I will say this: dimensions matter more than weight, so the smaller the box, the less cost incurred, all other things being equal. Even when weight was more, I found the price not changing. But the size? Once you are over certain measurements, you start incurring additional fees. I found the sweet spot to be equal to, or less than, these measurements:
Length: 48"
Width: 10"
Height: 30"
Cost was around $65-$85, depending on where it was going. Plug in your numbers to both Ship Pirate and BikeFlights, those two seem to be the best for rates.
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You make a good point that helps me understand why I may really like the Trek 750 - it seems like such a great bike to grow with, including growing old with. It's got a semi sloping top tube, so its friendly to HSS (Human Shrinking Syndrome) as Mad Honk so eloquently puts it, it's got just massive tire clearance. Really a great bike.
Yep, things are changing. Sure would be nice to have a 'fast bike', but also, I probably don't need 10 fast bikes.
See, I think it depends on application and resources. Someone that displays museum-quality bicycles, they may easily have 30-50 or more, but it fits with what they are trying to do. I've got less than that, but almost every one is in some hodgepodge state. Less than ideal. I need to get below my means. How I admire the person who can make one bike work for them!
What has typically been your acquisition ethos? All I really needed in the past was a high enough quality, with a low enough pricepoint. Well, now there are so many 'low enough' pricepoints on some great bikes that I need to seriously adjust. I've already passed up several <$50 Peugeots, 80s Treks and Ironmans.
Yep, things are changing. Sure would be nice to have a 'fast bike', but also, I probably don't need 10 fast bikes.
See, I think it depends on application and resources. Someone that displays museum-quality bicycles, they may easily have 30-50 or more, but it fits with what they are trying to do. I've got less than that, but almost every one is in some hodgepodge state. Less than ideal. I need to get below my means. How I admire the person who can make one bike work for them!
What has typically been your acquisition ethos? All I really needed in the past was a high enough quality, with a low enough pricepoint. Well, now there are so many 'low enough' pricepoints on some great bikes that I need to seriously adjust. I've already passed up several <$50 Peugeots, 80s Treks and Ironmans.
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I don't know how we can help. I'm serious. I had a huge collection at one point, and I was afraid the Hoarders TV show would come around to shoot an episode.
Asking for support here is like holding an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting at a bar.
I have kicked the habit. I stopped buying and building bikes a few years ago. There are some bikes I would like to have, but I'm not even buying them. I want an e-bike and a folding bike. Maybe I'll buy one or both. But first I will get rid of one. I have a couple of racing bikes I barely ride.
The problem is, I don't know how I killed my cravings, so I can't tell you how to do it. I just did it somehow.
Asking for support here is like holding an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting at a bar.
I have kicked the habit. I stopped buying and building bikes a few years ago. There are some bikes I would like to have, but I'm not even buying them. I want an e-bike and a folding bike. Maybe I'll buy one or both. But first I will get rid of one. I have a couple of racing bikes I barely ride.
The problem is, I don't know how I killed my cravings, so I can't tell you how to do it. I just did it somehow.
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I don't know how we can help. I'm serious. I had a huge collection at one point, and I was afraid the Hoarders TV show would come around to shoot an episode.
Asking for support here is like holding an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting at a bar.
I have kicked the habit. I stopped buying and building bikes a few years ago. There are some bikes I would like to have, but I'm not even buying them. I want an e-bike and a folding bike. Maybe I'll buy one or both. But first I will get rid of one. I have a couple of racing bikes I barely ride.
The problem is, I don't know how I killed my cravings, so I can't tell you how to do it. I just did it somehow.
Asking for support here is like holding an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting at a bar.
I have kicked the habit. I stopped buying and building bikes a few years ago. There are some bikes I would like to have, but I'm not even buying them. I want an e-bike and a folding bike. Maybe I'll buy one or both. But first I will get rid of one. I have a couple of racing bikes I barely ride.
The problem is, I don't know how I killed my cravings, so I can't tell you how to do it. I just did it somehow.
The parts exchanger and builder side of this hobby/passion is definitely feeling left out, like I cut off my arm. Much joy derived from redeeming bikes to rideable status, so I will need to find a new focus for that energy. Or once I have enough space, use the hangers as temporary storage for bikes I fix up for people on the side.
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OK Dave,
Perhaps this is the best place for me to offer up this one for disposal. As you were excited about this one when it came in, as was DD, I am less enthusiastic about it. As per your thinking it became a nice lavender, and is waiting for a new home. I still offer it up to you if you want it, but if not perhaps this is the right audience for me to offer it to. It is not my size, but more like yours Dave, and even panzerwagon may be interested in it. So, Here goes; a nice 50 year "Old Nago" with brand new lavender PC from Pro Kote Indy. I have straightened the frame before it went out for PC. Here are the pictures before I got it ready for shipping:
Frame number on dropout
The identifying head lugs
Standard fitment of tubes; size is 26.8mm which tells me the seat tube was installed upside down.
fork crown with identifying panto.
normal design for the brake bridge.
Looks like I had the bottle cage covered to match the frame.
Head tube is pretty normal in it's production.
The one thing I could not correct on this frame is a dent in the seat tube. I suspect it cannot be rolled out due to the pinned BB and upside down tube install.
This one is a good looking great old bike, and is ready to ship. As I always, my request is payment for shipping around $60 and first to PM me is the winner. Smiles, MH
Perhaps this is the best place for me to offer up this one for disposal. As you were excited about this one when it came in, as was DD, I am less enthusiastic about it. As per your thinking it became a nice lavender, and is waiting for a new home. I still offer it up to you if you want it, but if not perhaps this is the right audience for me to offer it to. It is not my size, but more like yours Dave, and even panzerwagon may be interested in it. So, Here goes; a nice 50 year "Old Nago" with brand new lavender PC from Pro Kote Indy. I have straightened the frame before it went out for PC. Here are the pictures before I got it ready for shipping:
Frame number on dropout
The identifying head lugs
Standard fitment of tubes; size is 26.8mm which tells me the seat tube was installed upside down.
fork crown with identifying panto.
normal design for the brake bridge.
Looks like I had the bottle cage covered to match the frame.
Head tube is pretty normal in it's production.
The one thing I could not correct on this frame is a dent in the seat tube. I suspect it cannot be rolled out due to the pinned BB and upside down tube install.
This one is a good looking great old bike, and is ready to ship. As I always, my request is payment for shipping around $60 and first to PM me is the winner. Smiles, MH
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