Will an Aero bike be a mistake for me?
11-29-17, 07:07 PM
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I assume those are 1.38, 1.38, etc?
You're talking about some pretty darn minor differences. I wouldn't even worry about it...
For instance...on the aeroad, 2 CM of spacers, and a 1cm shorter stem would make the aeroad LESS agressive than the Ultimate.
Conversely...throwing a 110mm stem on the ultimate, and slamming it/flipping it/etc, would make it MORE aggressive than both those bikes.
I'd make your decision based on whether you want a lightweight bike, or an aero bike. The geometry, at least in terms of fit, seem so close as to be insignificant. But what do I know
You're talking about some pretty darn minor differences. I wouldn't even worry about it...
For instance...on the aeroad, 2 CM of spacers, and a 1cm shorter stem would make the aeroad LESS agressive than the Ultimate.
Conversely...throwing a 110mm stem on the ultimate, and slamming it/flipping it/etc, would make it MORE aggressive than both those bikes.
I'd make your decision based on whether you want a lightweight bike, or an aero bike. The geometry, at least in terms of fit, seem so close as to be insignificant. But what do I know
I think however there is something wrong with those numbers as Canyon lists the stack to reach ratio on the Ultimate as 1.45.
11-29-17, 08:37 PM
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If you credit Rolo with an understanding of such matters, all of these bikes are below the ideal of 1.5 and most recreational cyclists will probably appreciate having an even higher ratio (hence, more spacers above the head tube).
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08-26-23, 12:00 PM
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So, six years later I thought I would update this thread.
As much as I wanted a new bike, I just couldn't find THE one, for many reasons. I was happy riding the Litespeed. Over this time I got better all around, the hills in my area made sure of that and I had no issues with the fit of the Litespeed.
The area I live in has many paths and trails so last year I bought a Ridley Kanzo Fast. It is an Aero gravel bike and I thought I would also use it as a less aggressive road bike as well as using it for gravel.
Well, I'll cut to the chase. In the back of my mind I still wanted an Aeroad. It was a moot point since Canyon seemed to never have my size available and I stopped looking long ago, but recently the urge was getting stronger so I started looking again.
This morning when I checked they had new stock and the components and color (very important:-) I wanted was in stock.
So this morning, at age 65, six years after starting this thread, I ordered an Aeroad. It should ship Monday and I can't wait!!!
As much as I wanted a new bike, I just couldn't find THE one, for many reasons. I was happy riding the Litespeed. Over this time I got better all around, the hills in my area made sure of that and I had no issues with the fit of the Litespeed.
The area I live in has many paths and trails so last year I bought a Ridley Kanzo Fast. It is an Aero gravel bike and I thought I would also use it as a less aggressive road bike as well as using it for gravel.
Well, I'll cut to the chase. In the back of my mind I still wanted an Aeroad. It was a moot point since Canyon seemed to never have my size available and I stopped looking long ago, but recently the urge was getting stronger so I started looking again.
This morning when I checked they had new stock and the components and color (very important:-) I wanted was in stock.
So this morning, at age 65, six years after starting this thread, I ordered an Aeroad. It should ship Monday and I can't wait!!!
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08-26-23, 01:18 PM
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Aero bikes are designed for straight line riding at a steady speed and not the best choice for hilly terrain. The old triathalon bikes were quite similar to today's endurance bike in terms of frame geometry and made for a very nice ride. An endurance bike with aero handlebars or extensions might be worthwhile but only if you want to ride a fixed course and reduce your times.
There is a trend to measuring our performance and logging in the data from rides and using special watches like the Garmin Forerunner and that is fine if you are a numbers fixated person. For me it goes against a key aspect of riding to be free of clocks and schedules and keep it as a recreational activity.
There is a trend to measuring our performance and logging in the data from rides and using special watches like the Garmin Forerunner and that is fine if you are a numbers fixated person. For me it goes against a key aspect of riding to be free of clocks and schedules and keep it as a recreational activity.
08-26-23, 03:55 PM
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08-28-23, 11:00 AM
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I would love to get a Canyon Aeroad but am wondering if it would be a mistake and I should get an Ultimate.
I am 59 yrs old and started riding again after 10+ years off.
I am riding a 2000 Litespeed Palmares. When I first got back to riding it was killing my neck and back and I was going to purchase an Endurace (endurance bike). I made some tweaks to my bike and really improved quickly. I am riding 60 miles (about 25 miles of hills) with only minimal pain. I moved on from wanting an Endurace to the Ultimate but as I said, I would really love an Aeroad.
When I look at the geometry, my Litespeed is actually more aggressive then the Ultimate and even the Aeroad. They did not have reach and stack numbers in 2000 so I estimated fairly closely.
The reach on the Aeroad is less then my bike but the stack is less as well. I am at the small end for needing an XS so the stack would not be so extreme? I don't know if I am missing something or an Aero bike would have more things to consider?
Another thing I don't understand is how the Aeroad for an XS frame has a top tube of 527 (the same as an Endurace?) and a reach of 376 yet an XS Utimate has a top tube of 529 and a reach of 378. Those numbers would mean the Aeroad (aero bike) is slightly less aggressive then the ultimate (road bike)?
Sorry for the long post but look forward to any thoughts. I know Canyon offers a 30 day exchange but would rather order the right bike to begin with.
Thanks in advance for any replies.
I am 59 yrs old and started riding again after 10+ years off.
I am riding a 2000 Litespeed Palmares. When I first got back to riding it was killing my neck and back and I was going to purchase an Endurace (endurance bike). I made some tweaks to my bike and really improved quickly. I am riding 60 miles (about 25 miles of hills) with only minimal pain. I moved on from wanting an Endurace to the Ultimate but as I said, I would really love an Aeroad.
When I look at the geometry, my Litespeed is actually more aggressive then the Ultimate and even the Aeroad. They did not have reach and stack numbers in 2000 so I estimated fairly closely.
The reach on the Aeroad is less then my bike but the stack is less as well. I am at the small end for needing an XS so the stack would not be so extreme? I don't know if I am missing something or an Aero bike would have more things to consider?
Another thing I don't understand is how the Aeroad for an XS frame has a top tube of 527 (the same as an Endurace?) and a reach of 376 yet an XS Utimate has a top tube of 529 and a reach of 378. Those numbers would mean the Aeroad (aero bike) is slightly less aggressive then the ultimate (road bike)?
Sorry for the long post but look forward to any thoughts. I know Canyon offers a 30 day exchange but would rather order the right bike to begin with.
Thanks in advance for any replies.
IMO if you want a "race" bike I would look into a Cervelo Soloist which isn't as nearly as difficult to work on and get your fit dialed in but you will get a decently lightweight bike w/ aero benenfits. You also could look into a Specialized Aethos which will give a much more compliant ride compared to all the mentioned bikes albeilt the geo is still "race" oriented mimicking the Tarmacs but at leats you easily could swap out the handlebars and stem to whatever size or even to aero ones
Last edited by Jrasero; 08-28-23 at 01:20 PM.
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