Best S.F. Bay Area Bike Swap?
#101
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There is a made-in-Japan sticker though.
Mine got disguised with a LOOK fork:
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I've long wondered who made the "carbon" frames for Centurion. The tubes are really carbon-wrapped aluminum, and the Centurion frame doesn't look like any other Japanese-made carbon frame I've ever seen.
There is a made-in-Japan sticker though.
Mine got disguised with a LOOK fork:
There is a made-in-Japan sticker though.
Mine got disguised with a LOOK fork:
Looks like a Graftek, although I'm not aware they contracted.
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I think that the look of these frames (besides their black tubes) stems from the longer lug sockets needed to effect a reliable bond between carbon and metal.
But the Graftek didn't use aluminum alloy lugs, so the lugs looked much slimmer.
Specialized had Giant make "annular" lugs (for the Epic) that overlapped and bonded to both the inside and outside diameters of the tubes, which allowed much-shorter lug sockets.
And Specialized used full-length seatstays in lieu of a mono-stay, helping their bikes look more normal (like a contemporary steel bike with oversized tubing).
The original fork on the Ironman Carbon would have been simple bonded aluminum, like a Vitus, Epic or SR Prism fork.
WSI (Centurion) seems to have kept their supplier a tight secret all of these years.
But the Graftek didn't use aluminum alloy lugs, so the lugs looked much slimmer.
Specialized had Giant make "annular" lugs (for the Epic) that overlapped and bonded to both the inside and outside diameters of the tubes, which allowed much-shorter lug sockets.
And Specialized used full-length seatstays in lieu of a mono-stay, helping their bikes look more normal (like a contemporary steel bike with oversized tubing).
The original fork on the Ironman Carbon would have been simple bonded aluminum, like a Vitus, Epic or SR Prism fork.
WSI (Centurion) seems to have kept their supplier a tight secret all of these years.
#104
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Adventure swap... https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...728211885.html
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So I went to the SF "Adventure Expo & Bike Swap this afternoon. Got there around 1:30PM after my Mazda's GPS seem to have resisted to navigate to the place as I guess the Navy used to limit access to the area.....
Nice venue, being a former WW2 Ford assembly plant, right on the Bay off Richmond Point.
But the Bike swap portion of the exhibit was a bit underwhelming. Only a handful of sellers present, and half of them picked up and left by 4:00PM..... The pickings were not that much, with about half having mostly ATB stuff. A lot of of the C&V road stuff was beat up and dirty, but thst's pretty much expected. There were a lot of early 90's used RDs and FDs in great condition in a couple of booths though, if you are looking for those. Hardly anything older, except for a few low model brakesets that were NOS
Only two things caught my interest. A set of lightly used aluminum Campy toe clips that were priced kinda high even for the light wear it already has, a polished 3 arm TA crank with very nice drillium rings and a Sugino Mighty drive side crank that looks more original, still wearing it's original satin anodizing and also sporting nice drillium finge with not that much wear. Too had I could not find the NDS crank arm as I might have bought it if it was complete. As for whole C&V bikes and framesets being sold. There was a nice Schwinn Paramount (?) From the sixties or early 70's , but it had a sold sign on it. Next yo it was a nicely repainted older Peugeot PX10(?) Frameset. And what looks like an 80s Benotto and a late 80's /early 90's Bottecchia framesets. Otherwise, not too much C&V stuff, really. All the other stuff was modern.
I was worried that my visit was turning out to be a but I was able to buy a really nice Castelli cold weather riding jacket from "The Pedaler Bike Shop" booth for half its already discounted price. I guess that makes the 5 buck entry fee worth it!
Nowhere near what the old Cow Palace Bike Expo was like, but still worth seeing as these swaps seem to always have at least a few things to sell that are pretty nice. Just need to get there early enough before the few interesting items get sold in the morning.
The adventure vehicles on display were actually quite interesting with a giant Mercedes off road capable van do.insting the floor. No price displayed, but must be at least $100K as the build looks first class and well thought out. There was a booth also selling electric off road bikes, interesting but the design sure did not look that off road though because of all the pristine white motor and side panels, and the all white seat. Must be trying to attract the Apple owners....
I guess we can just hope that they continue to hold the Expo every year and maybe the bike swap portion might grow in quality, size and scope. We need it!
Nice venue, being a former WW2 Ford assembly plant, right on the Bay off Richmond Point.
But the Bike swap portion of the exhibit was a bit underwhelming. Only a handful of sellers present, and half of them picked up and left by 4:00PM..... The pickings were not that much, with about half having mostly ATB stuff. A lot of of the C&V road stuff was beat up and dirty, but thst's pretty much expected. There were a lot of early 90's used RDs and FDs in great condition in a couple of booths though, if you are looking for those. Hardly anything older, except for a few low model brakesets that were NOS
Only two things caught my interest. A set of lightly used aluminum Campy toe clips that were priced kinda high even for the light wear it already has, a polished 3 arm TA crank with very nice drillium rings and a Sugino Mighty drive side crank that looks more original, still wearing it's original satin anodizing and also sporting nice drillium finge with not that much wear. Too had I could not find the NDS crank arm as I might have bought it if it was complete. As for whole C&V bikes and framesets being sold. There was a nice Schwinn Paramount (?) From the sixties or early 70's , but it had a sold sign on it. Next yo it was a nicely repainted older Peugeot PX10(?) Frameset. And what looks like an 80s Benotto and a late 80's /early 90's Bottecchia framesets. Otherwise, not too much C&V stuff, really. All the other stuff was modern.
I was worried that my visit was turning out to be a but I was able to buy a really nice Castelli cold weather riding jacket from "The Pedaler Bike Shop" booth for half its already discounted price. I guess that makes the 5 buck entry fee worth it!
Nowhere near what the old Cow Palace Bike Expo was like, but still worth seeing as these swaps seem to always have at least a few things to sell that are pretty nice. Just need to get there early enough before the few interesting items get sold in the morning.
The adventure vehicles on display were actually quite interesting with a giant Mercedes off road capable van do.insting the floor. No price displayed, but must be at least $100K as the build looks first class and well thought out. There was a booth also selling electric off road bikes, interesting but the design sure did not look that off road though because of all the pristine white motor and side panels, and the all white seat. Must be trying to attract the Apple owners....
I guess we can just hope that they continue to hold the Expo every year and maybe the bike swap portion might grow in quality, size and scope. We need it!
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You notice if this Merckx was still around?
#107
I would have noticed that, specially as its my size, and I don't have a Belgian bike in my stable yet.....I think the Merckx was gone.......
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#108
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You guys ready for another "Bikes on the Greenway" swap in Emeryville? It was the end of april 2018- which is not so far away suddenly!
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Just talking about it. Color Wheel is now... Allrounder Custom Bicycle Shop - Allrounder
I'm in.
I'm in.
#110
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Just talking about it. Color Wheel is now... Allrounder Custom Bicycle Shop - Allrounder
I'm in.
I'm in.
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Stop reading my posts!
Does "just talking about it" mean it's happening? Keep us posted, please!
#113
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They are up for it and so am I, so it should happen! once we get it together i'll post back. last year we failed to get a food truck so that will be my goal this year: some onsite food of somesort.
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The Valley Spokesmen are hosting a swap meet on March 31 at Wells Middle School in Dublin, CA from 1pm to 3pm. Admission and space is free. https://www.valleyspokesmen.org/swapmeet
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https://www.marinbike.org/event/trip...-extravaganza/
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#122
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sorry this year we just did not get it together for the greenway emeryville swap. blah. maybe i can swing something in the summer but april ended up being a killer month.
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