How much did you pay for your road bike?
05-02-24, 01:42 PM
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The value of anything - new or used - is driven by the market. A wheelset that sells for $2000 new, but $500 used doesn't mean the new one is overpriced. The lower price of the used set reflects people's concern about the condition, the lack of warranty coverage, and other unknowns that make the purchase a gamble.
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05-02-24, 01:53 PM
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I'm trying to decide which is preferable. We're used to socks having their fun until the IP police catch up with them. On the other hand, it's disturbing to think that there are actually people with such a need to display their ignorance that they will subject themselves to the humiliation OP has suffered here. 
05-02-24, 01:58 PM
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I'm trying to decide which is preferable. We're used to socks having their fun until the IP police catch up with them. On the other hand, it's disturbing to think that there are actually people with such a need to display their ignorance that they will subject themselves to the humiliation OP has suffered here.
05-02-24, 02:00 PM
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The value of anything - new or used - is driven by the market. A wheelset that sells for $2000 new, but $500 used doesn't mean the new one is overpriced. The lower price of the used set reflects people's concern about the condition, the lack of warranty coverage, and other unknowns that make the purchase a gamble.
Personally, the only thing I'd consider buying new for myself is a carbon frame and wheels, because it really can be a gamble. But from what I've seen so far, most of the sellers make very reasonable offers while being transparent and professional. They clearly marked every scratch, blemish or irregularity.
Had I seen your RLT9RDO I would've probably gone for it in white. Used it might be close to what I paid for the ALR 5.
Do you ride that bike still? I'd love to see a picture if you have one handy.
05-02-24, 02:09 PM
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I agree, the value is determined by combining all of those factors. Condition, mileage, price, warranty etc.
Personally, the only thing I'd consider buying new for myself is a carbon frame and wheels, because it really can be a gamble. But from what I've seen so far, most of the sellers make very reasonable offers while being transparent and professional. They clearly marked every scratch, blemish or irregularity.
Had I seen your RLT9RDO I would've probably gone for it in white. Used it might be close to what I paid for the ALR 5.
Do you ride that bike still? I'd love to see a picture if you have one handy.
Personally, the only thing I'd consider buying new for myself is a carbon frame and wheels, because it really can be a gamble. But from what I've seen so far, most of the sellers make very reasonable offers while being transparent and professional. They clearly marked every scratch, blemish or irregularity.
Had I seen your RLT9RDO I would've probably gone for it in white. Used it might be close to what I paid for the ALR 5.
Do you ride that bike still? I'd love to see a picture if you have one handy.
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05-02-24, 02:14 PM
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Yeah that looks extremely nice. The wheels are sick lmao. I was afraid about color schemes not matching on mine, but with CF wheels it seems that pretty much anything will work.
I meant this one here, isn't that it?
I meant this one here, isn't that it?
05-02-24, 03:22 PM
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05-02-24, 03:40 PM
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Yeah ok that does look green-ish. I don't like it actually. Weird that there would be such a difference compared to the website. They call it "Avalanche Grey / Slate" on there.
After I sell my current project, I'll be looking for a frame like this. Carbon, disc, <1.7kg & a light color scheme with branding.
After I sell my current project, I'll be looking for a frame like this. Carbon, disc, <1.7kg & a light color scheme with branding.
05-02-24, 08:50 PM
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32 lb 1982 steel mixtee frame with equally old metal rim brake wheels, and I am the happiest I have ever been in my life. you don't need to have the best possible components to be happy, and besides, it has held up better than the skeletal system that I was born with, which is pretty sturdy imo.
I'm talking to everyone, not just this crowd.
Explain again, for those not in the know, why comparing used to new prices doesn't make sense when determining value?
The guy says he rode less than 1000km on those wheels, so they are practically new. It's a fun fact that you could get the wheels of a 10K bike for 500 bucks, I'm sure not everyone instinctively knows that.
Explain again, for those not in the know, why comparing used to new prices doesn't make sense when determining value?
The guy says he rode less than 1000km on those wheels, so they are practically new. It's a fun fact that you could get the wheels of a 10K bike for 500 bucks, I'm sure not everyone instinctively knows that.
05-02-24, 08:58 PM
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Congrats on your daughters results and GL to her in future races Russ Roth
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05-02-24, 10:12 PM
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When this is your 13yo kid, and she beats half the grown women she races against, then you listen about the parts she needs and spend the cash for something better. In her case a 1600.00 felt TK2 with an 800.00 wheel upgrade. If she podiums at nationals this year the felt gets replaced with a 1600.00 Dolan frameset and the felt waits till younger siblings grow into it. Also built her a new road/cross bike this year which she'll use to defend her state champion title in criterium, hoping to hold it for the 3rd year in a row.
I hope your kid continues to thrive and enjoy cycling. I wish her continued success.
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05-02-24, 10:34 PM
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Also, from what I saw on line, that rim is a tubular tire rim. While some people absolutely adore their tubular tires and wheels, they are not the current state of the art (sorry Dave M). And the used ones you found were for sale in Germany. Shipping to the US?
Finally, yes, the marginal gain per dollar spent does decrease. But for me, the marginal gain of a fairly expensive bicycle was worth it because it allowed me to ride with the same group I have ridden with for the past 8 years after a major non-bicycle related injury.
05-03-24, 06:10 AM
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When this is your 13yo kid, and she beats half the grown women she races against, then you listen about the parts she needs and spend the cash for something better. In her case a 1600.00 felt TK2 with an 800.00 wheel upgrade. If she podiums at nationals this year the felt gets replaced with a 1600.00 Dolan frameset and the felt waits till younger siblings grow into it. Also built her a new road/cross bike this year which she'll use to defend her state champion title in criterium, hoping to hold it for the 3rd year in a row.
My uncle taught me how to repair and build bikes around that age. Kids pick up on the enthusiasm of their parents and try to mimic it, that's the unwritten rule.
Although I wouldn't consider 1000km old, I also wouldn't consider them new by any stretch. You also have no idea how much he's actually ridden them, have they been crashed? Could there be hidden damage? Does he actually ride with thought on where he's going and the terrain or has he plowed them through rough pavement with no concerns for what damage could be caused? Did he make it all up and they're stolen?
What are you riding right now?
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05-03-24, 08:15 AM
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I really went all out on the last one. I have almost $400 in it ! That includes the gas used to get it. And I'm considering spending even more on one this weekend !
05-03-24, 09:24 AM
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05-03-24, 09:39 AM
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Trek makes 2 different models with the "ALR 5" designation - the Emonda (road bike) and Checkpoint (gravel bike). Since you have rim brakes, I assume that's the Emonda.
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05-03-24, 10:21 AM
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You really are not good at this comprehension thing.
No one, including me, cares how much you spend on a jersey. The disagreement is over whether your $20 Amazon jersey (or $50 Primal Wear jersey) is as good as something from Assos, or Rapha, or… Etc.
Two very different things. Can you understand that now?
No one, including me, cares how much you spend on a jersey. The disagreement is over whether your $20 Amazon jersey (or $50 Primal Wear jersey) is as good as something from Assos, or Rapha, or… Etc.
Two very different things. Can you understand that now?