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Old 08-02-21, 06:31 AM
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My personal experience - upgraded my wheelset to a nice pair of Boyd carbons. The wheels were tubeless ready, and the proper tape and valve stems were included with the purchase.
I bought a pair of Continental GP5000 tubeless. They were impossible to mount. I'm not talking difficult, I'm talking IMPOSSIBLE, as in almost 3 hours myself, and then an hour at the LBS with myself and the tech trying.
I finally threw in the towel, and bought tubes and a pair of GP5000 clinchers. They went on with my thumbs. I sold the tubeless tires to a guy who told me he had no issue getting them mounted on his wheels (forget the brand, but they were alloy.)
Boyd has since come out with a notice to customers to NOT attempt to mount GP5000 tubeless on their carbon rims, as customers have damaged the wheels trying, and Boyd will not cover that damage.
Unless and until the industry comes out with a tubeless rim 'standard', I'll stick with tubes and clinchers.
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Old 08-02-21, 07:44 AM
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I put a new 25mm Continental GP 5000 tubed tire on my Mavic Open Sport rim without levers this last Saturday. I realized that I got the rotation wrong, so I removed it with out levers, fingers only. So that reputation you heard is just from those on the webs that can't.

In fact it's been a long while since I've used a lever to remove or install any tire.
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Old 08-02-21, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bald Paul
My personal experience - upgraded my wheelset to a nice pair of Boyd carbons. The wheels were tubeless ready, and the proper tape and valve stems were included with the purchase.
I bought a pair of Continental GP5000 tubeless. They were impossible to mount. I'm not talking difficult, I'm talking IMPOSSIBLE, as in almost 3 hours myself, and then an hour at the LBS with myself and the tech trying.
I finally threw in the towel, and bought tubes and a pair of GP5000 clinchers. They went on with my thumbs. I sold the tubeless tires to a guy who told me he had no issue getting them mounted on his wheels (forget the brand, but they were alloy.)
Boyd has since come out with a notice to customers to NOT attempt to mount GP5000 tubeless on their carbon rims, as customers have damaged the wheels trying, and Boyd will not cover that damage.
Unless and until the industry comes out with a tubeless rim 'standard', I'll stick with tubes and clinchers.
Schwalbe Pro One Tubeless mounted on my Boyds pretty easily. I originally wanted to use GP5000s, but as you said Boyd was very clear about not using those.

I did put some GP5000 non tubeless on my wife's bike and they went on reasonably easy.
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Old 08-04-21, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
Universally, no matter which of the LB rims you select at the top, the 25mm is extremely hard to install, and the 28mm pretty easy.
Interesting. I'm using 28s mounted tubeless on carbon rims with 17mm internal width and hooked beads. I'm currently on my third set of GP5KTLs for these wheels. I've got 5 bikes that are all tubeless and this is one of the easiest and most reliable tubeless setups I've had. The last swap of the 5KTLs took maybe 20 minutes total for both tires and the beads seated with a floor pump.

One note: I've had really good luck with the 5KTLs. They have proven to be very durable, they roll fast and have lots of grip. Years ago, I had such a terrible time with sidewall cuts on three different tubed 4KIIs that I actually swore off Conti for a while. The 5KTLs have brought me back to the brand. Tubeless vs. tubed: probably not a fair comparison but there you go.

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Old 08-04-21, 01:37 PM
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Gp5000 clinchers are only tight the first time. After that its supercsimple to pull one bead to swap tubes by hand.

My only argument against gp5000 if you lack the skill, you can damage sidewall.
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Old 08-04-21, 01:43 PM
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I've been riding GP4K for 28,000 miles on Zipp 303s. Once I break the bead I can remove them with just my hands. Installation is totally tool free.

I just hope the new GP5K are just as easy.
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Old 08-05-21, 09:18 PM
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Don’t know where the bad rap is coming from but have Conti 5000s tubeless and tubers on two bikes with no issues getting them on or off. Had some 23C Vittoria’s many years ago that fought me every time.
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