bianchi model identification
#1
Junior Member
Thread Starter
bianchi model identification
Hi all! New vintage enthusiast here!
I'm looking for help in identifying this vintage (seller claims it is) Bianchi, album link with images is below.
imgur.com/a/QKdZqhS
All help is appreciated, I've never seen a tange cro mo decal like the one on this bike, it only states "tange cro mo special tubing".
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
EDIT: now looking for help in identifying the Campagnalo drive train on this Bianchi (album link below) , and confirming the model of the Bianchi bike, please see the newest thread posts!
imgur.com/a/EzJtyvp#DMpzDBD
I'm looking for help in identifying this vintage (seller claims it is) Bianchi, album link with images is below.
imgur.com/a/QKdZqhS
All help is appreciated, I've never seen a tange cro mo decal like the one on this bike, it only states "tange cro mo special tubing".
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
EDIT: now looking for help in identifying the Campagnalo drive train on this Bianchi (album link below) , and confirming the model of the Bianchi bike, please see the newest thread posts!
imgur.com/a/EzJtyvp#DMpzDBD
Last edited by vintageaddict; 07-26-21 at 12:51 AM.
#2
Bianchi Goddess
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Posts: 27,858
Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.
Mentioned: 192 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2930 Post(s)
Liked 2,926 Times
in
1,491 Posts
Hi all! New vintage enthusiast here!
I'm looking for help in identifying this vintage (seller claims it is) Bianchi, album link with images is below.
imgur.com/a/QKdZqhS
All help is appreciated, I've never seen a tange cro mo decal like the one on this bike, it only states "tange cro mo special tubing".
I'm looking for help in identifying this vintage (seller claims it is) Bianchi, album link with images is below.
imgur.com/a/QKdZqhS
All help is appreciated, I've never seen a tange cro mo decal like the one on this bike, it only states "tange cro mo special tubing".
it.https://imgur.com/a/QKdZqhS
__________________
“One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"
Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
“One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"
Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
#3
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Thanks Bianchigirll !
What about this Bianchi, are the photos in the below album enough to narrow down which Piaggio era model it was?
imgur.com/a/ayqgn8Q
From what I can gather, I think it was made in Japan, and came from a lower end line of models with high tensile steel? Suntour cyclone derailers, crank looks like it says 'sugino gs'
What about this Bianchi, are the photos in the below album enough to narrow down which Piaggio era model it was?
imgur.com/a/ayqgn8Q
From what I can gather, I think it was made in Japan, and came from a lower end line of models with high tensile steel? Suntour cyclone derailers, crank looks like it says 'sugino gs'
#4
Bianchi Goddess
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Posts: 27,858
Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.
Mentioned: 192 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2930 Post(s)
Liked 2,926 Times
in
1,491 Posts
Thanks Bianchigirll !
What about this Bianchi, are the photos in the below album enough to narrow down which Piaggio era model it was?
imgur.com/a/ayqgn8Q
From what I can gather, I think it was made in Japan, and came from a lower end line of models with high tensile steel? Suntour cyclone derailers, crank looks like it says 'sugino gs'
What about this Bianchi, are the photos in the below album enough to narrow down which Piaggio era model it was?
imgur.com/a/ayqgn8Q
From what I can gather, I think it was made in Japan, and came from a lower end line of models with high tensile steel? Suntour cyclone derailers, crank looks like it says 'sugino gs'
__________________
“One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"
Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
“One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"
Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
#5
Junior Member
Thread Starter
#6
Edumacator
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,808
Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...
Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2439 Post(s)
Liked 3,129 Times
in
1,968 Posts
These are almost certainly not US market bikes, do you think? That lettering on the first one looks other-countryish... New Zealand? One of those one-off MTBs? Cervino, Maxx or something?
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super
#7
verktyg
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 4,030
Bikes: Current favorites: 1988 Peugeot Birraritz, 1984 Gitane Super Corsa, 1980s DeRosa, 1981 Bianchi Campione Del Mondo, 1992 Paramount OS, 1988 Colnago Technos, 1985 RalieghUSA SBDU Team Pro
Mentioned: 207 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1036 Post(s)
Liked 1,238 Times
in
654 Posts
Co-op Kludge
I'm only seeing one bike, the dark green one with a black fork.
That one has all the hallmarks of a bike that was cobbled together with a collection of parts from a bike co-op???
The tubing sticker says Tange Chro-Mo but it could have gas pipe wall thickness tubes. The dropouts are stamped steel which is an indicator of a lower priced bike. The fork doesn't match which is an indicator of a replacement...
My question about a frame or bike without the original fork is WHY??? What happened? Frequently forks are replaced because the bike was run into something like the back of a car.
Do you own the bike or are you considering buying it? Not wanting to come across snobby, saying someones bike is UGLY is akin to commenting about their mother or their dog...
The problem that I've seen with a bike like that one over almost years of messing with them is they quickly become a can of worms just trying to get them to operate safely!
If you're looking to buy it: RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY!!!
Remember though, rubber wheels beat rubber heels!
verktyg
That one has all the hallmarks of a bike that was cobbled together with a collection of parts from a bike co-op???
The tubing sticker says Tange Chro-Mo but it could have gas pipe wall thickness tubes. The dropouts are stamped steel which is an indicator of a lower priced bike. The fork doesn't match which is an indicator of a replacement...
My question about a frame or bike without the original fork is WHY??? What happened? Frequently forks are replaced because the bike was run into something like the back of a car.
Do you own the bike or are you considering buying it? Not wanting to come across snobby, saying someones bike is UGLY is akin to commenting about their mother or their dog...
The problem that I've seen with a bike like that one over almost years of messing with them is they quickly become a can of worms just trying to get them to operate safely!
If you're looking to buy it: RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY!!!
Remember though, rubber wheels beat rubber heels!
verktyg
__________________
Don't believe everything you think! History is written by those who weren't there....
Chas. ;-)
Don't believe everything you think! History is written by those who weren't there....
Chas. ;-)
#8
Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 20,650
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista
Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3091 Post(s)
Liked 6,600 Times
in
3,785 Posts
Pic Assist
__________________
#9
Junior Member
Thread Starter
I'm only seeing one bike, the dark green one with a black fork.
That one has all the hallmarks of a bike that was cobbled together with a collection of parts from a bike co-op???
The tubing sticker says Tange Chro-Mo but it could have gas pipe wall thickness tubes. The dropouts are stamped steel which is an indicator of a lower priced bike. The fork doesn't match which is an indicator of a replacement...
My question about a frame or bike without the original fork is WHY??? What happened? Frequently forks are replaced because the bike was run into something like the back of a car.
Do you own the bike or are you considering buying it? Not wanting to come across snobby, saying someones bike is UGLY is akin to commenting about their mother or their dog...
The problem that I've seen with a bike like that one over almost years of messing with them is they quickly become a can of worms just trying to get them to operate safely!
If you're looking to buy it: RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY!!!
Remember though, rubber wheels beat rubber heels!
verktyg
That one has all the hallmarks of a bike that was cobbled together with a collection of parts from a bike co-op???
The tubing sticker says Tange Chro-Mo but it could have gas pipe wall thickness tubes. The dropouts are stamped steel which is an indicator of a lower priced bike. The fork doesn't match which is an indicator of a replacement...
My question about a frame or bike without the original fork is WHY??? What happened? Frequently forks are replaced because the bike was run into something like the back of a car.
Do you own the bike or are you considering buying it? Not wanting to come across snobby, saying someones bike is UGLY is akin to commenting about their mother or their dog...
The problem that I've seen with a bike like that one over almost years of messing with them is they quickly become a can of worms just trying to get them to operate safely!
If you're looking to buy it: RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY!!!
Remember though, rubber wheels beat rubber heels!
verktyg
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,223
Mentioned: 654 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4722 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,036 Times
in
1,874 Posts
...What about this Bianchi, are the photos in the below album enough to narrow down which Piaggio era model it was?
imgur.com/a/ayqgn8Q
From what I can gather, I think it was made in Japan, and came from a lower end line of models with high tensile steel? Suntour cyclone derailers, crank looks like it says 'sugino gs'
imgur.com/a/ayqgn8Q
From what I can gather, I think it was made in Japan, and came from a lower end line of models with high tensile steel? Suntour cyclone derailers, crank looks like it says 'sugino gs'
Likes For T-Mar:
#11
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,223
Mentioned: 654 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4722 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,036 Times
in
1,874 Posts
Regarding the green bicycle, I don't think it is quite as bad as it's being represented. The Bianchi Special CrMo tubing was typically economical, seamed, Tange tubesets and far from gas pipe. Generally, they correlated to one of the seamless, Champion tubesets. In this case there's no mention of butting and it has stamped dropouts, so it's likely Tange #5 equivalent in the main tubes with hi-tensile stays and fork. The fork appears to have a Bianchi Special decal and contrasting forks were a trend in the very late 1980s, so it may be OEM.
The decals are 1988-1989 but there's no CdM decal, so I'm leaning towards 1989. Stamped dropouts with a plain gauge CrMo main triangle suggests a frameset equivalent to the USA market Alante.
Still, it's highly frankenbiked, with a wide range of components. The owner would have to be just about giving it way for me to consider it.
The decals are 1988-1989 but there's no CdM decal, so I'm leaning towards 1989. Stamped dropouts with a plain gauge CrMo main triangle suggests a frameset equivalent to the USA market Alante.
Still, it's highly frankenbiked, with a wide range of components. The owner would have to be just about giving it way for me to consider it.
Likes For T-Mar:
#12
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Thanks T-Mar !
Another modified Bianchi here, I think this is a 1989 Camapione d'Italia? (noting that I'm from Canada and assuming this frame was purchased in Canada) Album link is below, seller didn't provide much in the way of photos.
imgur.com/a/EzJtyvp#DMpzDBD
Can anyone confirm that the geometry of this frame is more "relaxed" than the Brava and more high end racing frames of that era? I'm looking for a bike to do 100-300km rides up mountain highways, I guess the difference between a touring frame and a racing frame would be preference?
And with regards to the Campagnolo drivetrain (seller claims it is), would anyone be able to confirm which model and year it came from? Apologies for the grainy photos it's all that was provided, the seller claims it's 3x8 but from the photo appears to be 3x6?
Thanks everyone!
Another modified Bianchi here, I think this is a 1989 Camapione d'Italia? (noting that I'm from Canada and assuming this frame was purchased in Canada) Album link is below, seller didn't provide much in the way of photos.
imgur.com/a/EzJtyvp#DMpzDBD
Can anyone confirm that the geometry of this frame is more "relaxed" than the Brava and more high end racing frames of that era? I'm looking for a bike to do 100-300km rides up mountain highways, I guess the difference between a touring frame and a racing frame would be preference?
And with regards to the Campagnolo drivetrain (seller claims it is), would anyone be able to confirm which model and year it came from? Apologies for the grainy photos it's all that was provided, the seller claims it's 3x8 but from the photo appears to be 3x6?
Thanks everyone!
#13
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,223
Mentioned: 654 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4722 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,036 Times
in
1,874 Posts
Thanks T-Mar !
Another modified Bianchi here, I think this is a 1989 Camapione d'Italia? (noting that I'm from Canada and assuming this frame was purchased in Canada) Album link is below, seller didn't provide much in the way of photos.
imgur.com/a/EzJtyvp#DMpzDBD
Can anyone confirm that the geometry of this frame is more "relaxed" than the Brava and more high end racing frames of that era? I'm looking for a bike to do 100-300km rides up mountain highways, I guess the difference between a touring frame and a racing frame would be preference?
And with regards to the Campagnolo drivetrain (seller claims it is), would anyone be able to confirm which model and year it came from? Apologies for the grainy photos it's all that was provided, the seller claims it's 3x8 but from the photo appears to be 3x6?
Thanks everyone!
Another modified Bianchi here, I think this is a 1989 Camapione d'Italia? (noting that I'm from Canada and assuming this frame was purchased in Canada) Album link is below, seller didn't provide much in the way of photos.
imgur.com/a/EzJtyvp#DMpzDBD
Can anyone confirm that the geometry of this frame is more "relaxed" than the Brava and more high end racing frames of that era? I'm looking for a bike to do 100-300km rides up mountain highways, I guess the difference between a touring frame and a racing frame would be preference?
And with regards to the Campagnolo drivetrain (seller claims it is), would anyone be able to confirm which model and year it came from? Apologies for the grainy photos it's all that was provided, the seller claims it's 3x8 but from the photo appears to be 3x6?
Thanks everyone!
The Campagnolo components appear to be a mixed bag. The crankset appears to be mid-2000s, 3rd tier, Centaur. I can't positively identify the others but the derailleurs appear to be slightly older.
I'm always cautious when I see things like coiled derailleur cables that the owner couldn't be bothered to trim and a nose down saddle. However, my biggest concern in the disparate frame sizes of the bicycles that are being considered. The ATB frame was medium size, the white road bicycle was small but this one is very small. Based on the stem height, post extension and saddle set-back, it is obviously too small for the current owner.
Edit: Photo assist.
Last edited by T-Mar; 07-26-21 at 07:12 AM.
Likes For T-Mar: