I want toe clips!
09-24-13, 10:00 AM
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I want toe clips!
I need some help with selecting some vintage style toe clips please!
I have 172.5mm campagnolo super record crank arms with gipemme dual sprint pedals and when I attach standard Christophe toe clips the tip rubs the ground when my feet aren't engaged (when the toe clip cage is under the pedal). This happens even when the bike is at right angles to the ground (i.e. not turning). I'd rather not have toe straps, any ideas?
Any ideas greatly appreciated!
I have 172.5mm campagnolo super record crank arms with gipemme dual sprint pedals and when I attach standard Christophe toe clips the tip rubs the ground when my feet aren't engaged (when the toe clip cage is under the pedal). This happens even when the bike is at right angles to the ground (i.e. not turning). I'd rather not have toe straps, any ideas?
Any ideas greatly appreciated!
09-24-13, 10:04 AM
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That doesn't sound unusual to me.
My advice is to ride with SPDs, or whatever clipless system you like (or even platforms if you prefer), and to toss on the toe clip pedals for pictures.
My advice is to ride with SPDs, or whatever clipless system you like (or even platforms if you prefer), and to toss on the toe clip pedals for pictures.
09-24-13, 10:19 AM
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+1 if that is a problem. I trying to determine if I am going to go back to straps or stick with SPD's. The bike looks great with the peroid correct toe clips and straps, not to mention the pedals, but for riding purposes, the SPD are much better.
09-24-13, 10:40 AM
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I need some help with selecting some vintage style toe clips please!
I have 172.5mm campagnolo super record crank arms with gipemme dual sprint pedals and when I attach standard Christophe toe clips the tip rubs the ground when my feet aren't engaged (when the toe clip cage is under the pedal). This happens even when the bike is at right angles to the ground (i.e. not turning). I'd rather not have toe straps, any ideas?
Any ideas greatly appreciated!
I have 172.5mm campagnolo super record crank arms with gipemme dual sprint pedals and when I attach standard Christophe toe clips the tip rubs the ground when my feet aren't engaged (when the toe clip cage is under the pedal). This happens even when the bike is at right angles to the ground (i.e. not turning). I'd rather not have toe straps, any ideas?
Any ideas greatly appreciated!
SPD is a great option. So is SPD-SL.
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09-24-13, 10:52 AM
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Just have to, A) either have a higher BB, B) shorter crank arms , or C) get good at flipping
over the pedals, and inserting your feet, as soon as you start moving .
but yea, double sided Pedals, no toeclips ( MKS Sylvan a current classic) or Spud pedals and Shoes .
back before the takeover of double sided MTB pedals , one more skill set that separated the leaders
and the lap down people, on the cyclocross race circuit,
was the ability to flying remount and flip over your pedals, stuff your feet in the toeclips,
and put the hammer down to the next course obstacle.
in one fast fluid motion..
over the pedals, and inserting your feet, as soon as you start moving .
but yea, double sided Pedals, no toeclips ( MKS Sylvan a current classic) or Spud pedals and Shoes .
back before the takeover of double sided MTB pedals , one more skill set that separated the leaders
and the lap down people, on the cyclocross race circuit,
was the ability to flying remount and flip over your pedals, stuff your feet in the toeclips,
and put the hammer down to the next course obstacle.
in one fast fluid motion..
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09-24-13, 10:58 AM
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I'd rather have toe clips if it's possible. Would half clips be less likely to touch the floor? Has anyone tried integrated pedals and toe clips like the ones that are sold by VP or Raleigh?
09-24-13, 11:09 AM
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My old school cross rig has Lyotard 460D pedals , Fisher doubled toe clips ,
the strap cut and screwed to the ends of the pedal , [mud fell through that way]
My touring rig has old Campag quill pedals , the toe clips have added a ramp
cut out of another sacrificed toeclip , inside to let my toe slide over the front plate ,
then the fact that my shoe soles are rather smooth , the flip and insert was pretty efficient.
The bike has a higher BB too.
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the strap cut and screwed to the ends of the pedal , [mud fell through that way]
My touring rig has old Campag quill pedals , the toe clips have added a ramp
cut out of another sacrificed toeclip , inside to let my toe slide over the front plate ,
then the fact that my shoe soles are rather smooth , the flip and insert was pretty efficient.
The bike has a higher BB too.
Has anyone tried integrated pedals and toe clips like the ones that are sold by VP or Raleigh?
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09-24-13, 11:15 AM
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I don't think half clips would be any different.
09-24-13, 11:44 AM
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Inverted clips scraping the ground is typical on most of my bikes. I just tilt the bike a bit as it comes to the bottom of the stroke a bit and engage quickly.
You might bend the clip a small amount to help it scrape less, but if you ride with street shoes you probably want the extra capacity.
You might bend the clip a small amount to help it scrape less, but if you ride with street shoes you probably want the extra capacity.
09-24-13, 11:48 AM
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After I had enough of tilting the pedals for entry and scraping the clips on the ground, I went back to SPDs and life was good.
09-24-13, 11:53 AM
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Half clips might help (unless you have unusually large sized feet that require really long half clips....), as it's usually the tip of the strap eyes that drags on the ground, not the toe portion of the clips.....but then if it does not have the strap and eye, the toe portion might hang low enough to start dragging instead.....I dunno, you just have to try and see....
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09-24-13, 12:46 PM
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Putting straps in might help a bit. You can close the clip up a little and still leave it loose enough for entry/exit. Also it will look much better imo. But yes, they will probably still hit the floor occasionally, more if it's a fixed gear.
09-24-13, 01:03 PM
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It's all about technique, and you will need 'straps.
Make sure you in an appropriate gear.
Pick you dominant leg, straddle the bike.
Rotate your "start" pedal up, insert foot and snug strap.
Look where you want to go. Push "start" foot down smartly while levering self onto the saddle.
Don't look down at you "off" foot.
Use your momentum to coast a few feet, smoothly flip the "off" pedal up, insert foot & proceed.
Tighten off strap or leave loose as conditions dictate.
Done properly there is nothing to drag on the pavement and you are underway in control.
FG starts can wait until the technique is automatic.
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09-24-13, 01:37 PM
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After some time, you will develop the "muscle memory" and you will not have to look at the pedals and straps to get in. You will instinctively flick the pedals right side up and your feet and hands will eventually just go naturally where they need to go to get in and out of the pedals and to cinch up and loosen the straps as needed...
Now, if you want to take advantage of clips and straps totally, you shouild try them with cleated shoes. They won't feel that dangerous once you mastered getting in and out of the pedals and adjusting the straps......but then you may be tempted to go move on to clipless pedals right after that..... like most here had....
Now, if you want to take advantage of clips and straps totally, you shouild try them with cleated shoes. They won't feel that dangerous once you mastered getting in and out of the pedals and adjusting the straps......but then you may be tempted to go move on to clipless pedals right after that..... like most here had....
09-24-13, 06:47 PM
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All my bikes have toe clips and all of them will scrape the ground when inverted. So learn to pick them up quickly and ride with your feet in them like you're supposed to! 
Really.
Really.
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09-24-13, 08:06 PM
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Same here.
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For picture taking, I use period correct pedals, straps and traps. For riding I use SPD even though the pedals do not compliment the vintage theme.
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Every bike I own has toe clips and straps. Sometimes they scrap a bit on the ground, yes even the alloy Super Records. Big deal !!!
09-25-13, 05:05 AM
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Well the whole configuration is a bit of a trap! Easier to get into than out in a tough situation, sort of a foot trap that you have to squirm out of or do an Artie Johnson impression.
09-25-13, 05:06 AM
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It's all about technique, and you will need 'straps.
Make sure you in an appropriate gear.
Pick you dominant leg, straddle the bike.
Rotate your "start" pedal up, insert foot and snug strap.
Look where you want to go. Push "start" foot down smartly while levering self onto the saddle.
Don't look down at you "off" foot.
Use your momentum to coast a few feet, smoothly flip the "off" pedal up, insert foot & proceed.
Tighten off strap or leave loose as conditions dictate.
Done properly there is nothing to drag on the pavement and you are underway in control.
FG starts can wait until the technique is automatic.
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Make sure you in an appropriate gear.
Pick you dominant leg, straddle the bike.
Rotate your "start" pedal up, insert foot and snug strap.
Look where you want to go. Push "start" foot down smartly while levering self onto the saddle.
Don't look down at you "off" foot.
Use your momentum to coast a few feet, smoothly flip the "off" pedal up, insert foot & proceed.
Tighten off strap or leave loose as conditions dictate.
Done properly there is nothing to drag on the pavement and you are underway in control.
FG starts can wait until the technique is automatic.
-Bandera
09-25-13, 05:07 AM
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This is where not tightening the strap comes in handy. It's not a necessity to have tight straps when you ride, compared to being able to get your foot out readily.
09-25-13, 05:17 AM
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I have done both in my early years. I really value the ability to "kick" back on climbing very small inclines! Loose straps are too risky for me to have enough confidence to do it anyway. But I am at a disadvantage as I have never used cleats. I switched to SPD's (SL) before the appreciation of C&V, and really liked the ease of use. Now it is hard to go back. Guess I need to get another pair of shoes for the road so I can do both.