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Old 03-31-22, 12:00 PM
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Use track pedals on a road bike?

Are there any functional issues that might come up if one is to use clipped track pedal on a road bike instead of a quill pedal?
I never did figure out why there's even a different design for track pedals..... What does eliminating the quill end of the pedals do for track riders.
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I have wide feet, I started using "quill-less" pedals almost immediately. Quills dig into my feet.



It was not uncommon BITD to use track pedals on road bikes. The conversion kit is a hacksaw and file.
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What do you mean by quill end?
At the local track they predominantly use look style road pedals or toe clips and straps. Some of the fastest riders use a special clipless pedal that takes wide toe straps to keep from ripping their feet out of the pedals. But in all cases they're a standard pedal interface that typically come from road bikes. Just don't do the clipless/toe strap combo, they always need help getting into and out of those.
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I think the lack of a quill arose from the desire/need to have added clearance on the banked track, but it may be horsepucky that I'm repeating.
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All the pedals, on my road bikes, are track pedals with toe clips, quill ends hurt when you ride in sneakers. No issues.
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Originally Posted by gugie
I have wide feet, I started using "quill-less" pedals almost immediately. Quills dig into my feet.



It was not uncommon BITD to use track pedals on road bikes. The conversion kit is a hacksaw and file.
I've ground the points down but havnt lately because I was afraid I was ruining good stuff but man I have a set of campy pedals I'd love to use.
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Originally Posted by noobinsf
I think the lack of a quill arose from the desire/need to have added clearance on the banked track, but it may be horsepucky that I'm repeating.
I lost some skin learning that this statement is indeed true if the track is steep enough. A hacksaw was applied to the pedals on my track bike shortly afterwards.
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I think some vintage track bikes had the shoes fixed permanently to the pedals.



It could make the starting and stopping slightly more challenging.
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Fortunately for me, I have narrow feet and quill pedals work just fine for me which is good as I never plan on going clipless.

I cannot stomach the look of modern pedals on C+V as well as having a bad ankle that won't tolerate them anyway, fine by me.

And yes I get the need for them as most of you ride harder than I do, can't argue with the tech.

All that being said brings me to this solution that has been around for a long time,

MKS Sylvan Touring and Stream, they also come in the new Next sealed bearing versions too.

The regular versions are cheap, plentiful, look the business and are tough as nails, easily one of the best values in all of cycling for a very long time.
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster
I've ground the points down but havnt lately because I was afraid I was ruining good stuff but man I have a set of campy pedals I'd love to use.
Yeah, I too have a set of high end campy pedals, sitting in a box, can’t bear filing the quill off of those.
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I don’t know who made them... but Superbe, Sprint, Cyclone track pedals are the cats meow.

Ive heard great things about these
https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...SABEgLX8vD_BwE

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Originally Posted by 52telecaster
I've ground the points down but havnt lately because I was afraid I was ruining good stuff but man I have a set of campy pedals I'd love to use.
Originally Posted by tkamd73
Yeah, I too have a set of high end campy pedals, sitting in a box, can’t bear filing the quill off of those.
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I have an embarrassment of riches in Campy pedals, NR,SR? mostly black, alloy cages, probably half a dozen pairs at least.

Seemed like every bike I picked up for awhile had them, right after I bought a couple pair for a good deal here I think.

Not a fan of the black and have been meaning to strip some down to use instead of MKS I have on many of my bikes.

I'll throw it out that I would trade some of them for any Campy pedals with good- or better chrome steel cages.
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Originally Posted by merziac
I have an embarrassment of riches in Campy pedals, NR,SR? mostly black, alloy cages, probably half a dozen pairs at least.

Seemed like every bike I picked up for awhile had them, right after I bought a couple pair for a good deal here I think.

Not a fan of the black and have been meaning to strip some down to use instead of MKS I have on many of my bikes.

I'll throw it out that I would trade some of them for any Campy pedals with good- or better chrome steel cages.
I have two sets but both with black cages.
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster
I have two sets but both with black cages.
At this point they are a bit of a scourge, guess I'll have to get off my duff and strip the black off a couple pairs.

I even made a set of spindle chasers for the sometimes tight Campy threads when I swapped in some French spindles for a PX-10 build that I saved the Stronglight crank on.

All threads were hammered including the pedal threads that had 9/16's forced way into, BB shell had BSA fixed cup halfway in and crank puller threads were gacked but chased out ok and got the puller in to get them off.
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Originally Posted by merziac
At this point they are a bit of a scourge, guess I'll have to get off my duff and strip the black off a couple pairs.
Those of us who were riding racing bikes in the '70s coveted the black Campy track pedals, which would earn the glance of approval from other riders at the start line. Who wouldn't want the lightweight black aluminum cages instead of the heavy chromed steel ones?
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
Those of us who were riding racing bikes in the '70s coveted the black Campy track pedals, which would earn the glance of approval from other riders at the start line. Who wouldn't want the lightweight black aluminum cages instead of the heavy chromed steel ones?
That would be me, all about the chrome, bling, bling, ding, ding.

Didn't and couldn't race, bad ankle, didn't care, wasn't strong or tough enough for it. Delivered and received my azz whoopins at the drag strip on mc's.





And if I had black track version they would be coveted, would not screw with them at all, bought a set of plain ones awhile back just because I wanted them and they were an ok price.

I got some black hacked quill versions awhile back that I stripped the worn black off of when I was on a pedal kick and had several pairs that got overhauled.

The black ones looked terrible and there was a pair of Specialized that got stripped too.

So, got any chrome ones you want to trade?
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Was good enough for Merckx -
that is what I migrated to- allowed better placement of my foot on pedal too.

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Originally Posted by merziac
I have an embarrassment of riches in Campy pedals, NR,SR? mostly black, alloy cages, probably half a dozen pairs at least.

Seemed like every bike I picked up for awhile had them, right after I bought a couple pair for a good deal here I think.

Not a fan of the black and have been meaning to strip some down to use instead of MKS I have on many of my bikes.

I'll throw it out that I would trade some of them for any Campy pedals with good- or better chrome steel cages.
6 loose pairs? Add four sets and we can be even.
when the superleggeri pedals first came out the cages were plain, then black anodized but the cage was the same pattern as the steel, less the strap loop. Then the cage with the extra material with the chamfer and revised webbing at the back.
to be a solid Campag campaigner, you need all the variations.
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Originally Posted by repechage
6 loose pairs? Add four sets and we can be even.
when the superleggeri pedals first came out the cages were plain, then black anodized but the cage was the same pattern as the steel, less the strap loop. Then the cage with the extra material with the chamfer and revised webbing at the back.
to be a solid Campag campaigner, you need all the variations.
6 is a rough guess, those are the excess, altogether probably have a dozen or 15 various pair, certainly not all variants and like I said, the chrome bling ones are my main focus, don't have enough of those so if you have any good ones you would like to trade, let me know, I would even trade 2 black sets for 1 good chrome set, no desire to be a "solid" Campag campaigner anymore than I am now.
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wide feet prefer non quill pedals

Yes!

For the large/wide footed rider, a track pedal is a great alternative to the Lyotard 460 and MKS Sylvan road pedals.
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Originally Posted by jdawginsc
I don’t know who made them... but Superbe, Sprint, Cyclone track pedals are the cats meow.

Ive heard great things about these
https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...SABEgLX8vD_BwE
I bet all those were MKS, seems like its been hammered out before but maybe not.

I have a pair of the new MKS Next Sylvan quill version, haven't tried them yet. the body is smaller than the regular ones but the length from the quill to the crank is at least the same so they should work just fine. maybe I'll dig them up and see how they do.

They seem a bit spendy compared to the regular ones but are probably worth every penny.
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Originally Posted by Russ Roth
What do you mean by quill end?
At the local track they predominantly use look style road pedals or toe clips and straps. Some of the fastest riders use a special clipless pedal that takes wide toe straps to keep from ripping their feet out of the pedals. But in all cases they're a standard pedal interface that typically come from road bikes. Just don't do the clipless/toe strap combo, they always need help getting into and out of those.
See merziac's photo below. On a quill pedal there is but one plate wrapped aound both front and back. Outboard, it narrows and rises to a rounded point or "quill".\

Originally Posted by merziac
That would be me, all about the chrome, bling, bling, ding, ding.

Didn't and couldn't race, bad ankle, didn't care, wasn't strong or tough enough for it. Delivered and received my azz whoopins at the drag strip on mc's.





And if I had black track version they would be coveted, would not screw with them at all, bought a set of plain ones awhile back just because I wanted them and they were an ok price.

I got some black hacked quill versions awhile back that I stripped the worn black off of when I was on a pedal kick and had several pairs that got overhauled.

The black ones looked terrible and there was a pair of Specialized that got stripped too.

So, got any chrome ones you want to trade?
Black vs chrome plates - I'll only ride chrome because I ride cleats and want them to perform. Aluminum for the win if you want pulling power and to have to crank the toestraps tight enough to hurt your foot. (Going up a 20% grade on a fix gear as a 50 something with nylon cleats felt like a bone breaker. I lived through a decade where my old aluminum ones were all completely worn out and could find no new ones. All Gore was just completing his work inventing the internet at the time. Then I found the Exustar cleats and was back in heaven.) That beautiful black anodizing is no match for coarse aluminum cleats and aggressive riding. Chrome plates can take that abuse for 10s of thousands of miles and still look respectable at a distance and ride like brand new.
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I put track pedals on my road bike once. Found I could only turn left...
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Originally Posted by noobinsf
I think the lack of a quill arose from the desire/need to have added clearance on the banked track, but it may be horsepucky that I'm repeating.
That was always my understanding as well. I ran MKS Sylvan track pedals on all of my road fixed-gears for many years, as that miniscule amount of extra clearance was reassuring to me. They're good, cheap pedals that don't look out of character on a vintage bike.
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What happens if you put mtb pedals on your track bike?
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