Servicing pedals?
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Servicing pedals?
I found a bike dumped on the side of the road that was damaged and had been rattle canned. The serial # is gone, but I've been trying to locate the owner.
I just pulled off the pedals to service them. (If the owner shows up, he'll get them.) There's a precision bearing on the outside of the spindle, but there are no bearings on the side near the crank. Are the bearings missing, or are some pedals manufactured without inner bearings?
I just pulled off the pedals to service them. (If the owner shows up, he'll get them.) There's a precision bearing on the outside of the spindle, but there are no bearings on the side near the crank. Are the bearings missing, or are some pedals manufactured without inner bearings?
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Not unusual to have a bushing on one end and bearings on the other. If you can determine the make/model of the pedals, there will probably be some info about them on the net.
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As noted, some pedals use plain bearings, so that's a real possibility.
But you need to keep an open mind.
Arguing for a plain bearing is the shiny zone on both spindle and pedal. Doubly so if it's a nice close fit, less so if it's sloppy. Mose so if you see a pressed in brass or steel sleeve (bushing).
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It would be more logical for the ball bearing to be on the more loaded end. Also, the spindle has a curve that looks awfully like a ball bearing cone. Doubly so if the pedal has a pressed in cup. Triple that if you see a polished or rusty band that could be a worn ball track.
A real possibility is that there was a ball bearing there, but the pedal loosened and the balls fell out, leaving the body to ride the spindle.
So, use your eyes and follow the evidence.
But you need to keep an open mind.
Arguing for a plain bearing is the shiny zone on both spindle and pedal. Doubly so if it's a nice close fit, less so if it's sloppy. Mose so if you see a pressed in brass or steel sleeve (bushing).
OTOH
It would be more logical for the ball bearing to be on the more loaded end. Also, the spindle has a curve that looks awfully like a ball bearing cone. Doubly so if the pedal has a pressed in cup. Triple that if you see a polished or rusty band that could be a worn ball track.
A real possibility is that there was a ball bearing there, but the pedal loosened and the balls fell out, leaving the body to ride the spindle.
So, use your eyes and follow the evidence.
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I will eventually take them to a bike shop. I expect they'll figure out if I need bearings and what size.
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Consider that balls would push the spindle out by 3/16" or so. Is the spindle long enough? Would there be a gap?
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I found a bike dumped on the side of the road that was damaged and had been rattle canned. The serial # is gone, but I've been trying to locate the owner
I just pulled off the pedals to service them. (If the owner shows up, he'll get them.) There's a precision bearing on the outside of the spindle, but there are no bearings on the side near the crank. Are the bearings missing, or are some pedals manufactured without inner bearings?
I just pulled off the pedals to service them. (If the owner shows up, he'll get them.) There's a precision bearing on the outside of the spindle, but there are no bearings on the side near the crank. Are the bearings missing, or are some pedals manufactured without inner bearings?
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The inboard sleeve bearing has the advantage of being simple, inexpensive, and good load carrying capacity, albeit with more friction than a ball or roller bearing. The outboard ball bearings hold things in alignment, so the sleeve doesn't seize.
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Every rotating component I've ever used has a full set of load supporting bearings, not merely on one side.
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I couldn't find any info about 534s online. I'd be interested in knowing what bearings 534's use.
They could be Shimano. They're all metal, no plastic anywhere. The inside of the cages say made in Taiwan, but I can't find anything on the outside of the cages. The outside of the cages are a bit scratched up, but you'd think you'd still notice if they said Shimano on the cage. My guess is they're at least 10 years old and probably older.
They could be Shimano. They're all metal, no plastic anywhere. The inside of the cages say made in Taiwan, but I can't find anything on the outside of the cages. The outside of the cages are a bit scratched up, but you'd think you'd still notice if they said Shimano on the cage. My guess is they're at least 10 years old and probably older.
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I couldn't find any info about 534s online. I'd be interested in knowing what bearings 534's use.
They could be Shimano. They're all metal, no plastic anywhere. The inside of the cages say made in Taiwan, but I can't find anything on the outside of the cages. The outside of the cages are a bit scratched up, but you'd think you'd still notice if they said Shimano on the cage. My guess is they're at least 10 years old and probably older.
They could be Shimano. They're all metal, no plastic anywhere. The inside of the cages say made in Taiwan, but I can't find anything on the outside of the cages. The outside of the cages are a bit scratched up, but you'd think you'd still notice if they said Shimano on the cage. My guess is they're at least 10 years old and probably older.
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Plain bearings ---- meaning without rolling elements ---- with or without bushings of one kind or another are very common in pedals.
We see them on kid's trikes as a plastic pedal on a bolt, and also on mic priced modern pedals. Besides cost, there's a benefit in a thinner profile that has the top closer to the axis.
It's easy enough to spot them by that narrow profile that simply lacks the room for rolling elements, ie. balls, like the pedal a pictured above.
Keep in mind that the large contact area provides plenty of load capacity, so they are not as bad as some suggest.
We see them on kid's trikes as a plastic pedal on a bolt, and also on mic priced modern pedals. Besides cost, there's a benefit in a thinner profile that has the top closer to the axis.
It's easy enough to spot them by that narrow profile that simply lacks the room for rolling elements, ie. balls, like the pedal a pictured above.
Keep in mind that the large contact area provides plenty of load capacity, so they are not as bad as some suggest.
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