Need Suggestions for Pannier Racks for Road Bike
11-01-23, 05:40 PM
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Dump the P-clamps. They are terrible. Measure your stays and get the proper size of these clamps from Tubus. Much easier to install and much stronger. I’ve used them for both the upper and lower attachments without issues.
11-01-23, 05:45 PM
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They aren’t all that strong and they tend to slip. Just putting them on is a pain compared to the Tubus clamps
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11-01-23, 05:57 PM
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Did you use nuts with nylon inserts with the bolts? Washers? Neither? I'm wondering if that wasn't the problem. I agree putting them on required my holding them closed with needle nose pliers and I DEFINITELY wouldn't want to take them off, but so far they have been fine. Definitely would rather spend $2 vs $22 but I'm glad you found a solution that works for you.
11-01-23, 09:17 PM
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I've been using P clamps for mounting top stays for rear racks for four decades and never had any problems with the clamps, as long as they're properly sized. The primary task of the top stays is stabilization, as the load stress should be handled by the legs and lower bolts.
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11-01-23, 09:58 PM
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I've been using P clamps for mounting top stays for rear racks for four decades and never had any problems with the clamps, as long as they're properly sized. The primary task of the top stays is stabilization, as the load stress should be handled by the legs and lower bolts.
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Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
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Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
11-02-23, 10:39 AM
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The “finding the right size” part is difficult with P-clamps, especially when buying them from a hardware store. The Tubus clamps come in specific sizes that fit better. Roadwearier implies that the frame has no braze-on mounts at all. P-clamps are okay for the top stays but not so great for the lower stays. I had a similar problem and the Tubus clamps are far better for the lower stays. I’ve had rack mounts added to the frame since this picture but the use of the Tubus clamps made mounting the rack easier than the previous P-clamp mount.
Modifying titanium is almost trivial. Not painting needed.
Modifying titanium is almost trivial. Not painting needed.
