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Old 03-05-23, 06:50 PM
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Campy black centerpull brakes?

Has anyone ever tried these guys?



https://www.ebay.com/itm/14478703101...Bk9SR-a7osbWYQ
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Originally Posted by jdawginsc
Has anyone ever tried these guys?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144787031013?
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I don't see anything that would make me not trust them.
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Originally Posted by Schweinhund
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Yeah, I had to reload it. Not sure why that happens sometimes. As for the ratings, the seller is a good one, I was wondering about the brakes themselves.
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Originally Posted by jdawginsc
Yeah, I had to reload it. Not sure why that happens sometimes. As for the ratings, the seller is a good one, I was wondering about the brakes themselves.
It's the thumbprint. all that extra nonsense after this part
It drives the auto link nuts.
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Isn't it an event specific brake made for an event that you never want to touch your brakes in?

If that's what you want, that's the ticket!
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Originally Posted by jiangshi
Isn't it an event specific brake made for an event that you never want to touch your brakes in?

If that's what you want, that's the ticket!
I bought one for the heck of it. It was only $25 shipped so I said what the heck! I’ve been curious for awhile.

i will definitely report back once I find out how they work...or if I end up in a cornfield or something.
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Taiwanese Campagnolo? How long has this been going on?

Not surprised I didn't get the memo, I'm strictly a C&V guy who stopped caring about Campy somewhere around when Delta Brakes or Euclid came out. I wish them well but I'll never buy any of their new stuff, just not interesting to me.
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Originally Posted by bulgie
Taiwanese Campagnolo? How long has this been going on?

Not surprised I didn't get the memo, I'm strictly a C&V guy who stopped caring about Campy somewhere around when Delta Brakes or Euclid came out. I wish them well but I'll never buy any of their new stuff, just not interesting to me.
2015 maybe?

Of the newer stuff, I end at 9 speed and the skeleton calipers, but would love to get some Euclid or Olympus (too pricy). The centerpull is an experiment in curiosity.
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
I'm with ya. But if you really, really like dual-pivots, then brand new silver Veloce can still be had under $70 shipped. And they won't look awful on the right bike, even with old Record non-aeros.
Yeah good lookin' brake. I'm not actively against newer stuff, it's just that I have enough old Record (NR era) and older parts to last me the rest of my life, and they work good enough for me. I have never even ridden a bike with dual-pivots, that I can recall, so I literally don't know what I'm missing. And I'm OK with that! Not trying to convince anyone else though. I have no interest in trying to sweep back the tide, or win converts. The world can move on without me!

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Originally Posted by bulgie
Yeah good lookin' brake. I'm not actively against newer stuff, it's just that I have enough old Record (NR era) and older parts to last me the rest of my life, and they work good enough for me. I have never even ridden a bike with dual-pivots, that I can recall, so I literally don't know what I'm missing. And I'm OK with that! Not trying to convince anyone else though. I have no interest in trying to sweep back the tide, or win converts. The world can move on without me!

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Honestly, for some reason, SunTour Superbe brakes give me confidence and Shimano 105 SLR, so not all single pivots are the same for sure.

600EX are pretty solid at times.

Have never ridden a bike with Campy single pivot yet.
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
I'm with ya. But if you really, really like dual-pivots, then brand new silver Veloce can still be had under $70 shipped. And they won't look awful on the right bike, even with old Record non-aeros.



Edit: oops, that's a Centaur, but Veloce look similar.
Pretty looking brake and all, but I would never purchase a brake caliper without a quick release on it.
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Pretty looking brake and all, but I would never purchase a brake caliper without a quick release on it.
It's a slippery slope here into the dreaded "new" stuff but Campy ergo levers have a quick release built into them. Same is true of Tektro levers and the clones of them.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Pretty looking brake and all, but I would never purchase a brake caliper without a quick release on it.
Yeah, its a pain to have to deflate the tire, every time you want to remove the wheel. I have 2 sets of Campy dual pulls on bikes, one Xenon, the other Athena, they look nice, and perform well, but tend not to want to use those bikes, when having to remove a tire for transport. I guess the most elegant solution is to source the matching brake levers, which incorporate the quick release.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
It's a slippery slope here into the dreaded "new" stuff but Campy ergo levers have a quick release built into them. Same is true of Tektro levers and the clones of them.
I don't like the on/off type of QR.
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It's a slippery slope here into the dreaded "new" stuff but Campy ergo levers have a quick release built into them. Same is true of Tektro levers and the clones of them.
And its all good. Two releases are better than one. Releases on the levers allow you to open the brakes for rim damage while riding; not require you remove a hand from the bars and you get to keep al your braking power (damaged rim permitting. Case in point - the 1978 Stowe race. A rider took me out with his rear wheel. Jumped back on the bike without inspecting anything. (Uphill and we weren't going very fast.) Front rim had a brake shoe to brake shoe wobble affecting both my speed and the bike's handling. My Gran Compes had the usual releases on the calipers but I had no desire to reach down while the bike was oscillating so. But - DiaComp also put release levers on the lever. Flipped it off and presto! bike rode fine. (Caught the field and finished in the money. Thank you, DiaCompe.

And now I often set bikes up with one of the levers of one brake adjusted to be a parking brake. I ride with it off and flip it on when I go into a store.
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Originally Posted by smd4
I don't like the on/off type of QR.
That's where two releases rule. One on-off for wheel changes or emergency opens (see post above) and one as an adjustable cam to dial in lever feel. Sadly, the adjustable cams seem only to exist for sidepulls and dual pivots.
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
Sadly, the adjustable cams seem only to exist for sidepulls and dual pivots.
Point being, of course, that the dual pivot Centaur show above doesn't even have an adjustable cam.

Did Campy invent that adjustable cam for sidepulls? If so, too bad they abandoned the concept.
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The lever QR makes sense when you consider that It's lighter and more aero.

Kidding aside, it also makes sense when the brakes need to be opened to accommodate a bent rim.
By letting the lever swing out further, the rim wobble has clearance but the brake adjustment still has the same adjustment feel when the pads start compressing the rim.

Removing the wheel on many bikes can be done without touching any brake release, unless the tire is considerably wider than the rim.

I can adjust my cable tension (even while riding) on a modern Campagnolo setup, so the QR function isn't needed for that.
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Originally Posted by jdawginsc
I bought one for the heck of it. It was only $25 shipped so I said what the heck! I’ve been curious for awhile.

i will definitely report back once I find out how they work...or if I end up in a cornfield or something.
Any chance to try out these curiosities yet? Enquiring minds want to know.
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
Any chance to try out these curiosities yet? Enquiring minds want to know.
Not yet. It is mostly a stash item for when I retire in two months. Then the projects become a focus.
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