Desert Ryder

Rossin Road Bike. Any ideas on vintage? Campy equipped, perforated Turbo saddle.
Seller is accepting offers. What would be a reasonable opening offer?
Ad says size is 59?

Kabuki12

I recently sold a 1982 Medici Pro Strada with similar equip ( Campagnolo second gen. Super Record) and condition. It was 60cm in size and outside the most desirable size range of 56-58cm . I am not sure where Rossin falls in the pecking order compared to Medic but I was asking 800 and took 750 for it. It took a while but the market is not spectacular right now and if the seller is motivated it could work to your advantage. Maybe someone with knowledge of this brand may be able to help you make a decent offer. I had folks make ridiculous offers on mine and I just ignored them and moved on until someone made a decent offer. My situation was that I had a value in my mind and if it didn’t happen I would keep it . That is a nice looking bike and if you like it , I suggest taking it for a ride when you get close to a determined value and ready to make an offer, good luck.

VtwinVince

What he said, I think it's more like a 57 or 58, nice Chromovelato with nice parts, a worthy bike.

BMC_Kid 

It doesn’t look like a cromovelato paint job to me.

jiangshi

Rossin measured center to top. That looks like an early 80's bike, no second set of water bottle bosses and SL tubing.

They are fine frames. It's hard to tell the condition of the paint and chrome from the picture, and it looks to have tubular rims.

It has Almarc leather bar wrap, and a very long 1R stem on it.

If it fits, I'd give it a try.

3alarmer 

...I am under the impression that the earliest Rossin frames attract the most attention, in terms of desirability. But that's just my impression.
It's possible that there aren't that many people who still remember how the brand got started, and the ensuing years as production and sales expanded.


I have an early 70's frame here that I repainted, but have not yet reassembled. There was at least one person posting here who was unimpressed with the brazing on his, which he also repainted. Mine appeared to be very well done, when the paint was stripped. The old Rossin history page appears to have gone away, so this blog is about the most information still up on the interwebz.

VINTAGE ROSSIN ARCHIVE

3alarmer 

Rossin

...other than the inescapable fact that prices are down on classic steel road bikes right now, I have no idea what you might offer for this one.
At one time it was probably a good deal at 800 bucks, but nobody seems to want to spend that sort of money on a steel bike with down tube shifting any more.

I have quit listing mine for sale, locally. Hoping to either start organizing for the dreaded e-bay sales, or maybe they will become more trendy again.
Rear derailleur looks like early Super Record, which was kind of pricey at the time (80's). So it's well outfitted, for the period.

Mr. 66

Single bottle, under bb guide, and braze on mount front derailleur, I'll say it is a 1983-84

greenscobie86

Chiming in with my 0.02 cents here. Nice bike if a little on the tall side + long reach stem, I think its gotta be ~$1k+ all day(especially if you happen to have the original pedals IMO) if there is no rust and the paint is nicer in person than photos.

SurferRosa

$600

Kabuki12

This is the Medici I sold, no pedals were included
I sure wouldn't sell for that but honestly , that's where the market is at and I think , a reasonable offer......One way to find out ! Joe

Desert Ryder

The seller turned down $500 and is in the $800-1K realm in his ballpark figure.

https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/bik/...647337387.html

3alarmer 

....I've gotten some lowball offers on some pretty nice bikes in the past few months. I turned them down, too. I guess it would be different if I did not still ride them. Weird ad text.

Desert Ryder

I didn't offer the $500. I asked him what kind of ballpark figure here was looking at before making an offer.
He said he turned down a $500 offer already. I thanked him and moved on. If it was an attractive price for me I would have considered it but I really don't need another bike.

BTW...by not putting a price, and saying you are accepting offers, you open yourself to low offers and shouldn't be offended.

Kabuki12

I agree with that , if you don’t have a target price listed you get offers that are no doubt going to be low. When I had mine for sale I had a price and did not say firm price. I assumed people would make offers but ignored “low ball” offers. It took a while , certainly more than a week , but a decent offer finally came in and the bike was sold. I had originally thought I would sell a few but I’ve decided to keep what I have and enjoy them. It is good you moved on.

3alarmer 

...I always, always, always price my stuff. It saves dealing with most of the "Would you take a hunnert bucks" people. But still, they persist.
My most recent one was a guy who I met with a three tubes, celeste Bianchi in good shape. Clearly advertised at $400, which I thought a reasonable price, given condition, which is excellent.

It even has indexed shifting. Nothing needed, everything replaced when I stripped and reworked it for my own use a few years back. I think I paid $500 for it, plus whatever consumables I replaced. like tires, chain bar tape, brake blocks, cables, etc.

He rides it around the parking lot, inspects it carefully without much comment, finally stands up and points down to a paint scratch on the BB shell.
"That looks like it might be due to overstressing in that area, and might fail. I'll need to offer considerably less than your asking price."

I just loaded the bike up and left. As I was loading, he asked, "So you wouldn't take $399 for it ?" Craigslist is a laugh a minute.