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Old 04-26-23, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I think shorter chain ring bolts would be better, because those teeth look ready to gouge a calf when the foot slips off the pedal.
Every mountain and road bike sold in the last sixty+ years has had two or three front front exposed sprockets in the same exact location as my bike, or didn't you notice ??? Some of the lower-end bikes such as my Huffy did come with a guard ring bolted to the outermost sprocket, but the typical elitist that frequents bicycling forums turns their nose up at those. They work great for keeping your pants clean of oil, and for that reason it is on my list to put them on as many of my bikes as possible.


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Please. There's nobody more elitist than the "reverse snob". Nobody cares as much about his equipment and his image than the guy who tries to prove he's not elitist.
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Originally Posted by beng1
Some of the lower-end bikes such as my Huffy did come with a guard ring bolted to the outermost sprocket, but the typical elitist that frequents bicycling forums turns their nose up at those. They work great for keeping your pants clean of oil, and for that reason it is on my list to put them on as many of my bikes as possible.
I haven’t ridden a bike while wearing pants since I was on my childhood BMX bike. As such, a chainring guard is an unnecessary addition that serves no purpose on any of my bikes. As someone who seems to have eliminated parts you feel are unnecessary on your bikes, I’m sure you understand where I’m coming from.

It’s curious that you continue to stay involved in a forum that is populated with people that you have so much dislike for.

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Every mountain and road bike sold in the last sixty+ years has had two or three front front exposed sprockets in the same exact location as my bike, or didn't you notice ???
However, not one mountain or road bike sold in the last sixty+ years has had the smaller chain ring installed on the outside.
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Originally Posted by smd4
What other forum could he possibly participate in? Are there dumpster diving forums? Disgusting old man pervert forums? Sloppy seconds vodka forums? Without any of those, it’s just us!
Those groups probably exist, if you look hard enough. I'm not about to do the looking, however. Some things you can't un-see.
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Originally Posted by smd4
However, not one mountain or road bike sold in the last sixty+ years has had the smaller chain ring installed on the outside.
IMO, people are making way to big a deal out of this. It's simply being used as a bolt spacer, not as an active part of the drivetrain. That said, I expect beng is thrilled that it is rubbing so many people the wrong way.
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... I expect beng is thrilled that it is rubbing so many people the wrong way.
That seems to be his prime directive.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
IMO, people are making way to big a deal out of this. It's simply being used as a bolt spacer, not as an active part of the drivetrain.
Whatever the reason, it still looks ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Whatever the reason, it still looks ridiculous.
Where have you gotten any impression that appearance is any kind of concern for beng? That said, I agree with you, but I understand his reasoning, from a purely practical standpoint. His beloved chainring guard would have been a better choice, for both appearance and function.
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Where have you gotten any impression that appearance is any kind of concern for beng?
Damn good point.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
That said, I expect beng is thrilled that it is rubbing so many people the wrong way.

Gotta say, as long as the small chain ring isn't literally rubbing beng1 the wrong way, I don't see the problem using it as a spacer.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Where have you gotten any impression that appearance is any kind of concern for beng? That said, I agree with you, but I understand his reasoning, from a purely practical standpoint. His beloved chainring guard would have been a better choice, for both appearance and function.
Very much so.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Gotta say, as long as the small chain ring isn't literally rubbing beng1 the wrong way, I don't see the problem using it as a spacer.
As odd-ball as it looks, the practical application makes sense. Personally, I don't see it as more dangerous than a conventional 2x or 3x setup. Any time you're not in the big chainring, you have fully-exposed chainring teeth next to your leg in the same position as on beng's mystery machine.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
I expect beng is thrilled that it is rubbing so many people the wrong way.
Originally Posted by tomato coupe
That seems to be his prime directive.
. . . and yet you can't seem to keep yourselves from posting in his threads.

The best way to stop a troll is to not feed the troll, let his threads wither on the vine from abandonment. Yet in all my years moderating here I have yet to see that principle put into practice.
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What other forum could he possibly participate in? Are there dumpster diving forums? Disgusting old man pervert forums? Sloppy seconds vodka forums? Without any of those, it’s just us!
That's going a little too far, there.
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. . . and yet you can't seem to keep yourselves from posting in his threads.

The best way to stop a troll is to not feed the troll, let his threads wither on the vine from abandonment. Yet in all my years moderating here I have yet to see that principle put into practice.
How else am I going to waste my time at work?
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How else am I going to waste my time at work?
And me at home?
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Originally Posted by BillyD
. . . and yet you can't seem to keep yourselves from posting in his threads.

The best way to stop a troll is to not feed the troll, let his threads wither on the vine from abandonment. Yet in all my years moderating here I have yet to see that principle put into practice.
This is the internet. Are you new here?
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Where have you gotten any impression that appearance is any kind of concern for beng? That said, I agree with you, but I understand his reasoning, from a purely practical standpoint. His beloved chainring guard would have been a better choice, for both appearance and function.
Right, Someone needs to mass-produce and market a line of cheap guards to fit popular crank-sets. They would have to be sold with extra long chain-ring bolts to hold them in place.
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I haven’t ridden a bike while wearing pants since I was on my childhood BMX bike. As such, a chainring guard is an unnecessary addition that serves no purpose on any of my bikes. As someone who seems to have eliminated parts you feel are unnecessary on your bikes, I’m sure you understand where I’m coming from.
It’s curious that you continue to stay involved in a forum that is populated with people that you have so much dislike for.
I have not eliminated parts from any of my bikes at all, what are you talking about ??? My single-speed was given to me as a frame and fork and headset only, so I actually added parts to it. What is it missing ??? Weird.

And I ride in a part of the world where it gets down to zero degrees, although I won't go riding if it is below 20 degrees, and prefer it to be at least around freezing or above. Riding outside in freezing weather demands pants. That is really odd that you would not be aware that people ride bicycles in weather that demands such clothing.
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Riding outside in freezing weather demands pants. That is really odd that you would not be aware that people ride bicycles in weather that demands such clothing.
You have to realize that most of these guys you’re mingling with have adopted the riding standards of professional racing cyclists. As such they wear cycling apparel that, among other features, does not flap in the wind and create speed-robbing drag. So they wear tights, not pants that might also get caught in the chainrings.

But don’t let them criticize your riding habits, there are millions of other cyclists like you who don’t adhere to the racing standards which are not essential to cycling enjoyment. These guys (many, not all) just think everybody who enters here should be just like them.
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You have to realize that most of these guys you’re mingling with have adopted the riding standards of professional racing cyclists. These guys (many, not all) just think everybody who enters here should be just like them.
This is the number one reason why we have so many debates. arguments and hostility here on general forum. A handful of individuals who imitate the pros and pretend to be pros have dominated this forum and any person who doesn't dress like them and ride like them has no right to post here and doesn't deserve to be called a cyclist.
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Originally Posted by beng1
I have not eliminated parts from any of my bikes at all, what are you talking about ??? My single-speed was given to me as a frame and fork and headset only, so I actually added parts to it. What is it missing ??? Weird.

And I ride in a part of the world where it gets down to zero degrees, although I won't go riding if it is below 20 degrees, and prefer it to be at least around freezing or above. Riding outside in freezing weather demands pants. That is really odd that you would not be aware that people ride bicycles in weather that demands such clothing.
My mistake. I made the assumption that your singlespeed was, at one time, a multi-geared bicycle. Handlebar tape seems to be an item that you don't feel is necessary.

Although it doesn't get to those kinds of temperatures in my area, I'm fully aware that there are people who do ride when it gets very cold. I'm also aware that there are many cyclists who don't wear clothing that is a risk for flapping around in such a way that it risks getting dirty from chain oil, even when the temperatures require full body coverage. I'm one of those cyclists. I'm not telling you how you need to be, or what you need to wear, only that a chainring guard is a completely unnecessary item for any of my bicycles because I don't have the same clothing issues you do.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
This is the number one reason why we have so many debates. arguments and hostility here on general forum. A handful of individuals who imitate the pros and pretend to be pros have dominated this forum and any person who doesn't dress like them and ride like them has no right to post here and doesn't deserve to be called a cyclist.
When did that happen? Do you have any specific examples?
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