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Old 12-25-23, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by big john
As was pointed out, the term has been used since at least the 80s.

It's really harmless, I don't understand the kerfuffle. I don't care for the term "brifters" but if people want to use it, I'm not going to rail against them/it.
It's always been a popular term used by bike reviewers in describing a bike fit. It doesn't seem to have a specific meaning either. Sometimes it refers to components like bars, stems and levers and sometimes refers to dimensions like reach and stack. Like they might describe a bike has having a "long, low cockpit". But I don't think I have ever heard anyone use the term "cockpit" in a spoken conversation relating to bikes.
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Originally Posted by big john
As was pointed out, the term has been used since at least the 80s.

It's really harmless, I don't understand the kerfuffle. I don't care for the term "brifters" but if people want to use it, I'm not going to rail against them/it.
Same here. But, let's discuss that word "kerfuffle."
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Same here. But, let's discuss that word "kerfuffle."
I had a big stack of kerfuffles for breakfast this morning, with butter and genuine maple syrup. Delicious.
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Much ado about nothing.
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Old 12-25-23, 11:31 AM
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Kerfuffle is the aim of this thread. What else is new? I feel like Dr. Riick.
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Yah the Google def is FOS.
Cockpit for a bike includes CONTROLS and navigation equipment. Handlebar, brake levers, shifters, speedometer/ GPS, grips, mirrors, bell.
Pedals on a bike are DRIVETRAIN. You seat is not something that you look at and is NOT a control device.
Headset and stem is like the steering column of a car, it only holds the steering wheel/ bars on a bike.
And anyway, don't call anything FLAT bars. Now that is stupid.
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Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53
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And anyway, don't call anything FLAT bars. Now that is stupid.
Don't badmouth flat bar. Good stuff. (But rarely referred to in the plural.) I'm sure I have had flatbar on a bike at one time or another. I hang 3 of my bikes on the stuff. (Flat bar - extruded steel, referred to by the cross section dimensions in inches. 1/8 x 3/4. 12 x 18. (Seriously big stuff! 20' bar - 12,000 pounds.)

And back to the regular programming ...
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Originally Posted by big chainring
I cringe when I read cockpit, drivetrain, "build", its all weird american bike-speak. Cycling lingo is and should remain euro based. Its in the rules.
“Build” makes me cringe, like brifter does for some and stable does for others.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Can I interest any of you in a slightly used bridge in Brooklyn?
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Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53
Yah the Google def is FOS.
Cockpit for a bike includes CONTROLS and navigation equipment. Handlebar, brake levers, shifters, speedometer/ GPS, grips, mirrors, bell.
Pedals on a bike are DRIVETRAIN. You seat is not something that you look at and is NOT a control device.
Headset and stem is like the steering column of a car, it only holds the steering wheel/ bars on a bike.
And anyway, don't call anything FLAT bars. Now that is stupid.
Well the cockpit of a plane or racing car certainly includes the seat and column. Not saying it should or should not on a bike. “Cockpit” is hardly an official bike term. It’s just a term borrowed from aviation.
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Originally Posted by big chainring
Cycling lingo is and should remain euro based. Its in the rules.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
(*calm inhale*)
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Yeah, make a resolution and when you agree on it in 300 years, get back to me....

(wipes tear)

aw man, I needed that....

Euro centric..... oh my!
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Old 12-25-23, 06:24 PM
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As long as we are talking about cringing...

Campy doesn't really make me cringe, but it makes me wonder why people use it instead of just typing out Campagololo, Capagamalo, Campangolo... Oh forget it.

And that reminds me of..
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Old 12-25-23, 07:23 PM
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Anyone tried poached kerfuffle with avocado on brioche?
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....the guy who said ,"I thought it was a gay bar," is correct. But the one I'm thinking of is in Hotlanta. I'm a lumberjack, and I'm OK.

The Cockpit is a bear lover and leather-wearing bar, but welcomes everyone!

It hosts Djs throughout the week with various themed nights, which encourages dress codes like jockstraps, lumberjacks, sportswear, etc. Very popular on the weekends and the beer busts are a real good time. If you like manly men, leather and some drunken fun, check out The Cockpit in Atlanta.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
....the guy who said ,"I thought it was a gay bar," is correct. But the one I'm thinking of is in Hotlanta. I'm a lumberjack, and I'm OK.

The Cockpit is a bear lover and leather-wearing bar, but welcomes everyone!
I'm guessing we are now getting closer to what OP had in mind for this thread.
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Old 12-26-23, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
I'm guessing we are now getting closer to what OP had in mind for this thread.
Ummm, no. Not at all.
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Gadget geek term for handlebars.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
It's always been a popular term used by bike reviewers in describing a bike fit. It doesn't seem to have a specific meaning either. Sometimes it refers to components like bars, stems and levers and sometimes refers to dimensions like reach and stack. Like they might describe a bike has having a "long, low cockpit". But I don't think I have ever heard anyone use the term "cockpit" in a spoken conversation relating to bikes.
Writers are always trying to find unique descriptions of things, but maybe I wasn't paying attention or just shrugged it off as 'what did he just call it?!" and forgot about it. I've been into cycling continuously since the 70s and I, too, have never heard the term used in conversation by anyone I know ( or even anyone on the various Interweb forums) until the last few years. Now its a buzzword. It sounds ridiculous in relation to a bicycle. But to each his own ...

I crashed over my handlebars the other day - so I guess I flew out of my cockpit!
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Old 12-26-23, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BillyD
“Build” makes me cringe, like brifter does for some and stable does for others.
And now that you've cracked that door open, for some reason I can't explain, I wince every time I read about somebody's wheels having x hubs laced to Y rims.

And when anything about a bike is referred to as "lovely" or "stout." (In those cases, it grates because I know that it was borrowed, possibly unconsciously, from a folksy Grant Petersen screed.)

A guy I worked with in a bike store couldn't stand hearing seat stays referred to as "beefy" (a bit of hyperbole you don't hear anymore).
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By the way, the meaning of the slang term "cockpit" in aviation, like the related "joystick," is not exactly family friendly. (Or is it?)
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“Colorway” makes me cringe. And if my iPhone doesn’t recognize it, it must not be true.

A guy referring to his “taint” annoys me some. Haven’t seen that here for a while.

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"Gruppo" or any of the variations unless the entire post is in Italian. "Custom" unless referring to a bespoke frame. "Pull the trigger" for obvious reasons.
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Originally Posted by freeranger
To quote Google "The cockpit components include all the contact points between rider and bike - handlebars, saddle and pedals. Also in this category are the other essential parts including headsets and seatposts."
And occasionally, the pavement! 🤪

But in case of bicycles, the origin of the term must be mostly to do with a greatly exaggerated sense of self-importance… or possibly a delusional justification to blow 8 grand on a bicycle.
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Originally Posted by Alan K

But in case of bicycles, the origin of the term must be mostly to do with a greatly exaggerated sense of self-importance… or possibly a delusional justification to blow 8 grand on a bicycle.
*yawn emoji*

”There you go again.”—R. Reagan
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
*yawn emoji*

”There you go again.”—R. Reagan
Quite a predictable response.

[A cheap comedic ploy for deflection in the absence of real answers (to Carter). I do understand that some people worship him now.]
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