Garmin launches new Edge 1100
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Garmin launches new Edge 1100
Seems that Garmin launches the follower of the Edge 1000 that was released almost three years ago.
The new Edge 1100 is very similar to Edge 1000 with almost the same case, but a bigger display with a resolution of 240 x 400 px.
The battery lifetime was increased and - as a good feature - that battery is exchangable now, but the replacement seems to be a little bit cumbersome. As an extra feature, a programmable remote control will be available Garmin makes the data exchange with your smartphone much easier. If there are more features in the software is not yet known however, I'm sure Garmin will do it.
Garmin has not announced a release term yet, but it seems that the Edge 1100 will be available in the early 2017.
The new Edge 1100 is very similar to Edge 1000 with almost the same case, but a bigger display with a resolution of 240 x 400 px.
The battery lifetime was increased and - as a good feature - that battery is exchangable now, but the replacement seems to be a little bit cumbersome. As an extra feature, a programmable remote control will be available Garmin makes the data exchange with your smartphone much easier. If there are more features in the software is not yet known however, I'm sure Garmin will do it.
Garmin has not announced a release term yet, but it seems that the Edge 1100 will be available in the early 2017.
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Welcome to the forum. That's pretty interesting. Do you have a Garmin?
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Hi
I have an older Edge 705, but I think its display is a little bit small.
Once I tested the Edge 1000 but I guess one is handicaped on long tours due to the short battery lifetime.
However, the display of the Edge 1000 is smart. If Garmin brings a new unit with a longer battery lifetime and a larger display as additional gadget, this would be very fine
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I have an older Edge 705, but I think its display is a little bit small.
Once I tested the Edge 1000 but I guess one is handicaped on long tours due to the short battery lifetime.
However, the display of the Edge 1000 is smart. If Garmin brings a new unit with a longer battery lifetime and a larger display as additional gadget, this would be very fine
Jef
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I guess Garmin might it better linking with its Varia Vision so that you can fade up street and way information and maybe more customizing the display information.
See Garmin Varia Vision:
Garmin Varia Vision could be the heads up display cyclist have been waiting for - Bikerumor
and test:
First Ride: Garmin Varia Vision?Heads Up Display | DC Rainmaker
Hope that the unit is faster than the old one.
See Garmin Varia Vision:
Garmin Varia Vision could be the heads up display cyclist have been waiting for - Bikerumor
and test:
First Ride: Garmin Varia Vision?Heads Up Display | DC Rainmaker
Hope that the unit is faster than the old one.
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Or just trolling?
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I have an 800 and I use external batteries to power it most of the time. I did try to use a dynohub to power it, but for the 800, an external pass-through battery is the way to go.
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Just joined and only two posts, no links to leaked information and no details otherwise. Hard not to believe this is just pure speculation and someone else's Photoshop job.
In Q4 2015 there was a rumor of the 1100 on Garmin's forums with a release of Q1 2016.
In Q1 2015 there was a rumor on Bikeradar about a Edge 1010 with no release date.
Neither of which panned out.
There is still GPSRumors.com who said in Q4 2015 that there will be an Edge 1010 announced in 2017 with no release date.
In Q4 2015 there was a rumor of the 1100 on Garmin's forums with a release of Q1 2016.
In Q1 2015 there was a rumor on Bikeradar about a Edge 1010 with no release date.
Neither of which panned out.
There is still GPSRumors.com who said in Q4 2015 that there will be an Edge 1010 announced in 2017 with no release date.
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Just joined and only two posts, no links to leaked information and no details otherwise. Hard not to believe this is just pure speculation and someone else's Photoshop job.
In Q4 2015 there was a rumor of the 1100 on Garmin's forums with a release of Q1 2016.
In Q1 2015 there was a rumor on Bikeradar about a Edge 1010 with no release date.
Neither of which panned out.
There is still GPSRumors.com who said in Q4 2015 that there will be an Edge 1010 announced in 2017 with no release date.
In Q4 2015 there was a rumor of the 1100 on Garmin's forums with a release of Q1 2016.
In Q1 2015 there was a rumor on Bikeradar about a Edge 1010 with no release date.
Neither of which panned out.
There is still GPSRumors.com who said in Q4 2015 that there will be an Edge 1010 announced in 2017 with no release date.
No link.
Fake.
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They'll release a successor to the 1000, part of how they stay in business is selling new hardware. And it'll probably be announced at CES in January. But that's a guess, a lot of their products have 2 to 3 year release cycles.
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I agree that it wouldn't be surprising to see an Edge 1000 successor (beyond last year's Explore Edition) in 2017. Garmin announced the Edge 1000 in April 2014.
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I have no doubt a new version of the 1xxx series will come, but it might not be at CES, more likely Sea Otter (April 2017). It is just that the OP is fake, and all just made up.
Example: "a bigger display with a resolution of 240 x 400 px."
Reality: Current Edge 1000 has a 240 x 400 px display.
Example: "battery is exchangable now,"
Reality: When has Garmin ever released an Edge device with a replaceable battery, Also replaceable stuff mean doors in the shell which makes waterproofing more difficult. This likely will never be true.
One more note, a quote from DCRainMaker in his Edge 820 Hands on:
Example: "a bigger display with a resolution of 240 x 400 px."
Reality: Current Edge 1000 has a 240 x 400 px display.
Example: "battery is exchangable now,"
Reality: When has Garmin ever released an Edge device with a replaceable battery, Also replaceable stuff mean doors in the shell which makes waterproofing more difficult. This likely will never be true.
One more note, a quote from DCRainMaker in his Edge 820 Hands on:
"Oh, it should be noted I don’t expect to see an Edge 1000 hardware refresh this year, there’s just no reason to do so. They’ve kept continual software updates on the unit and there’s basically no competition in that portion of the category. Thus no reason for Garmin to rev a new hardware platform. And of course, with the Edge 520 being out precisely 1 year, there’s no reason to revamp that either."
Just an FYI: Garmin will be in booths 347 and 349 at the next Sea Otter.
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Agree the OP is fake.
I'd like to see something like an 820 but with more pixels. I know that's hard on the battery but the 1000 is a larger unit, there's more room for a larger battery. I probably won't get that because even what's in the 800 is enough, it's just that more is better.
I'd like to see something like an 820 but with more pixels. I know that's hard on the battery but the 1000 is a larger unit, there's more room for a larger battery. I probably won't get that because even what's in the 800 is enough, it's just that more is better.
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Here is my hope: given Garmin's want to reduce size, see how the 8x0 series just got downsized to the 5x0 series form factor. I would love to see the 1010 (or whatever they call it) moved down to the former 8x0 form factor. Give me all the features of the 1000 plus the newest stuff and shove it into an 810 case. If they would use very low power parts they could get 10-12 hours out of the 810 sized battery. Leave the uSD slot and make the connection microUSB, that way I can use the same charger as my phone.
Even though I quoted DCRainMaker about the 1000, I agree with his conclusion but not with the premise. My take is that there is no reason to rev a device that simply does not sell well. Why retool, which costs tons of money, if you will not see any return from it. Now most of the tooling is done for the older 8x0 series and I am sure that it is a lot cheaper to produce than the 1000, so it might make sense for Garmin to downsize the 1000 in it's next iteration.
Even though I quoted DCRainMaker about the 1000, I agree with his conclusion but not with the premise. My take is that there is no reason to rev a device that simply does not sell well. Why retool, which costs tons of money, if you will not see any return from it. Now most of the tooling is done for the older 8x0 series and I am sure that it is a lot cheaper to produce than the 1000, so it might make sense for Garmin to downsize the 1000 in it's next iteration.
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Here is my hope: given Garmin's want to reduce size, see how the 8x0 series just got downsized to the 5x0 series form factor. I would love to see the 1010 (or whatever they call it) moved down to the former 8x0 form factor. Give me all the features of the 1000 plus the newest stuff and shove it into an 810 case. If they would use very low power parts they could get 10-12 hours out of the 810 sized battery. Leave the uSD slot and make the connection microUSB, that way I can use the same charger as my phone.
Even though I quoted DCRainMaker about the 1000, I agree with his conclusion but not with the premise. My take is that there is no reason to rev a device that simply does not sell well. Why retool, which costs tons of money, if you will not see any return from it. Now most of the tooling is done for the older 8x0 series and I am sure that it is a lot cheaper to produce than the 1000, so it might make sense for Garmin to downsize the 1000 in it's next iteration.
Even though I quoted DCRainMaker about the 1000, I agree with his conclusion but not with the premise. My take is that there is no reason to rev a device that simply does not sell well. Why retool, which costs tons of money, if you will not see any return from it. Now most of the tooling is done for the older 8x0 series and I am sure that it is a lot cheaper to produce than the 1000, so it might make sense for Garmin to downsize the 1000 in it's next iteration.
Garmin is already using "very low power parts" in all of the devices. (If there are "very low power parts" they aren't using, those parts are probably too expensive.)
The 1000 has a larger battery (it appears) than the 810.
Putting a 1000 in a 800 case would make it more expensive to produce than the 800.
About the only "tooling" Garmin would preserve cramming a 1000 into a 800 case would be the case.
Garmin has already invested in the tooling of the 1000.
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Yes the 1000 has a larger battery to power the larger screen, but screen tech has evolved since it's release and there are smaller screens with higher resolution that can use less power, negating the need for such a big battery.
As far as moving it to a 8x0 size, they did it with the 820 moving it to a 5x0 form factor, it is in keeping with their move to shrink the products.
I still think the 1000 sells in so limited quantities (not based on any real facts just observations of what the groups I ride with use, majority 5x0, then the rest 8x0) that if they really need a halo product it should shrink in size. This is not a smartphone after all. And currently they have dumped the tooling for the 810 so dumping for the 1000 is not entirely out of the realm of possibility.
As far as moving it to a 8x0 size, they did it with the 820 moving it to a 5x0 form factor, it is in keeping with their move to shrink the products.
I still think the 1000 sells in so limited quantities (not based on any real facts just observations of what the groups I ride with use, majority 5x0, then the rest 8x0) that if they really need a halo product it should shrink in size. This is not a smartphone after all. And currently they have dumped the tooling for the 810 so dumping for the 1000 is not entirely out of the realm of possibility.
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Just because someone copy and pastes a bad photoshop of a stock photo for a different Gamin product is no reason to believe the alleged product doesn't yet exist.
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Garmin's Fenix 3 gets 20 hours of battery life with GPS running and has a color screen of similar resolution to an 800, in a package that fits on your wrist. I have no doubt they can improve the screen and still get the life we've come to expect.
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Most of what makes screens inefficient is the backlight. The Garmins do work without a backlight already. I suppose you are talking about AMOLED but that might not actually use less power and it might not actually be very visible in bright sunlight.
The could possibly make a smaller 1000. But the "810 tooling" would have nothing to do with it.
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16 hours in GPS mode
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/into...rod543199.html
up to 15 hours GPS training mode
The 820 isn't much larger than the Fenix 3, is it?
200 x 265 pixels (a little better resolution).
It doesn't seem too far fetch to expect that the engineering of one already informed the engineering of the other.
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Originally Posted by Garmin
Battery life Up to 50 hours in UltraTrac mode; up to 20 hours in GPS training mode; up to 6 weeks in watch mode
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They say 16 in two places and 20 in another.
It looks like the difference might be between the HR and non HR versions. Or the 20 h number is an error.
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/into...rod545480.html
Again, it's not unreasonable to expect that both use the same engineering to save power (unless there's a good reason not to).
It looks like the difference might be between the HR and non HR versions. Or the 20 h number is an error.
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/into...rod160512.html
Serious Style That Stands Up to the Roughest Conditions
fēnix 3 style
fēnix 3 is available in 3 bold models: gray with high-strength, scratch resistant, crystal and black band; silver with red band; and the premium sapphire model with a stainless steel band and sapphire lens. Each watch features a protective stainless steel bezel and buttons, and reinforced housing for extra durability. A sunlight-visible high-resolution color Garmin Chroma Display with LED backlight lets you access your data in any light. fēnix 3 is water rated 100 meters and has a battery life of up to 50 hours in UltraTrac™ battery saver mode, 16 hours in GPS mode and up to 3 months in watch mode (all depending on settings).
Serious Style That Stands Up to the Roughest Conditions
fēnix 3 style
fēnix 3 is available in 3 bold models: gray with high-strength, scratch resistant, crystal and black band; silver with red band; and the premium sapphire model with a stainless steel band and sapphire lens. Each watch features a protective stainless steel bezel and buttons, and reinforced housing for extra durability. A sunlight-visible high-resolution color Garmin Chroma Display with LED backlight lets you access your data in any light. fēnix 3 is water rated 100 meters and has a battery life of up to 50 hours in UltraTrac™ battery saver mode, 16 hours in GPS mode and up to 3 months in watch mode (all depending on settings).
Up to 40 hours in UltraTrac mode; up to 16 hours in GPS training mode; up to 2 weeks in smartwatch mode (with 24/7 HR monitoring)
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all I want is to be able to turn off data logging, is that so much to ask?