Improve rolling resistance
08-28-23, 02:47 AM
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I've owned them in two different diameters and was astounded how slow they were. No, they are awful.
Continental GP5000 700x32 or 30mm with light tubes can be had for about $115. These will be your fastest and worth the money. Paselas are dogs for rolling resistance.[/QUOTE]
Compared to much more expensive tires and systems, yes, But in the big picture that includes the OP's tires and much slower, Paselas are not bad at all, especially for a low priced and very versatile tire.
Fun slow tires, the green Vittoria CX clinchers I had a few years ago. Cyclocross tread and long green hairs. That green rubber was sticky and super in the wet. Even gripped pretty well on ice. In the dry, rolling resistance was so high I kept expecting chunks of asphalt to get pulled up and lodged in my fenders. I was always looking for wet, sand, gravel; anything that rolled faster than dry pavement. 28c Paselas went on that same bike. What a difference!
Compared to much more expensive tires and systems, yes, But in the big picture that includes the OP's tires and much slower, Paselas are not bad at all, especially for a low priced and very versatile tire.
Fun slow tires, the green Vittoria CX clinchers I had a few years ago. Cyclocross tread and long green hairs. That green rubber was sticky and super in the wet. Even gripped pretty well on ice. In the dry, rolling resistance was so high I kept expecting chunks of asphalt to get pulled up and lodged in my fenders. I was always looking for wet, sand, gravel; anything that rolled faster than dry pavement. 28c Paselas went on that same bike. What a difference!
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08-28-23, 04:09 AM
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I never knew anything of Schwalbe tires in experience until a few years ago. First 50mm Big Bens for me all-arounder and then 35mm Marathon Racers for my road bike. Sure, if I look at the bike tire RR website the Racers rate as "middle of the road". Yeah so what, as such "ratings" are as subjective as the very words I write. What matters to me is the total riding experience, not just rolling resistance. I consider them "fast enough" compared to any other tires I've had, including Vittoria Hypers which I wore through many pairs of in the past and were lauded as having such "low" RR. I can't say I noticed them be so much better as far as that was concerned, but I did notice how short lived they were. The tread, or lack there of, wore through very quickly. I couldn't even make it through one season on those. The Marathon Racers have more tread and the compound wears well, so it's a trade-off for performance and durability. I consider these a perfect balance of performance, durability and puncture resistance.
All this said, the giant white elephant in the room as far as resistance is concerned is the rider themselves. You can spend thousands of dollars on equipment, but if the rider has the profile or position of sail, it doesn't help as much as it will if the rider minimizes their own bodily aerodynamic drag.
All this said, the giant white elephant in the room as far as resistance is concerned is the rider themselves. You can spend thousands of dollars on equipment, but if the rider has the profile or position of sail, it doesn't help as much as it will if the rider minimizes their own bodily aerodynamic drag.
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08-28-23, 07:45 PM
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UPDATE: I should have mentioned before that what's I have on there now are a mis-matched schwable / bontrager 700 x 35.
I have ordered a pair of Continental GP5000 700x32s. The original tires on the bike were Continental Top Touring Tires that were almost super-human. I rode them until they were threadbare. True this is just one 50 mile ride for me, but I'm enjoying it, so I think it might not be my last, so I figured I'd pay a little more for what seems like a good value.
I truly appreciate all of the great advice, support, and feedback.
I have ordered a pair of Continental GP5000 700x32s. The original tires on the bike were Continental Top Touring Tires that were almost super-human. I rode them until they were threadbare. True this is just one 50 mile ride for me, but I'm enjoying it, so I think it might not be my last, so I figured I'd pay a little more for what seems like a good value.
I truly appreciate all of the great advice, support, and feedback.
08-29-23, 02:59 AM
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UPDATE: I should have mentioned before that what's I have on there now are a mis-matched schwable / bontrager 700 x 35.
I have ordered a pair of Continental GP5000 700x32s. The original tires on the bike were Continental Top Touring Tires that were almost super-human. I rode them until they were threadbare. True this is just one 50 mile ride for me, but I'm enjoying it, so I think it might not be my last, so I figured I'd pay a little more for what seems like a good value.
I truly appreciate all of the great advice, support, and feedback.
I have ordered a pair of Continental GP5000 700x32s. The original tires on the bike were Continental Top Touring Tires that were almost super-human. I rode them until they were threadbare. True this is just one 50 mile ride for me, but I'm enjoying it, so I think it might not be my last, so I figured I'd pay a little more for what seems like a good value.
I truly appreciate all of the great advice, support, and feedback.
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09-26-23, 07:54 PM
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Update if anyone is following
So, I did the Bicycles Battling Cancer Ride last weekend, 54 miles. It took me forever, 5 hours and I stopped a bunch of times, but, the important thing is that I finished.
Kind of loving the bike again, loving the Continentals. Feels great letting the miles slide by.
Now I noticed I've got some play in my hubs,...:-)
Kind of loving the bike again, loving the Continentals. Feels great letting the miles slide by.
Now I noticed I've got some play in my hubs,...:-)
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09-28-23, 09:59 AM
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I've got an old (90s era) Cannondale T700 touring bike that I love and have recently got back into riding. I'm planning to complete a 50 mile ride for the American Cancer Society in the middle of September. The T700 has some pretty good but heavy/knobby tires that make sense for a touring bike, but I think the rolling resistance is probably not as smooth as it can be.
I've never ridden 50 miles before, (I did 32 last weekend , it took me 4 1/2 hours with a couple of breaks) . As an amputee I'm looking to move the needle as much as possible on rolling resistance to ensure that I can stretch the distance out.
Are there any cheap slick tires or any other tunings that anyone could suggest that would move the needle for less than say $100 ?
I've never ridden 50 miles before, (I did 32 last weekend , it took me 4 1/2 hours with a couple of breaks) . As an amputee I'm looking to move the needle as much as possible on rolling resistance to ensure that I can stretch the distance out.
Are there any cheap slick tires or any other tunings that anyone could suggest that would move the needle for less than say $100 ?
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09-28-23, 09:42 PM
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09-28-23, 11:02 PM
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Anyways this is one more vote for Pasela. while the gp4000 and now gp5000 are my favorite road tires. the Pasela rolls really well!
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09-29-23, 03:31 AM
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Another thing I would pass along is tire pressure. I had tried these tires - gp5000s many years ago in the days of riding with high pressure in the tires and constantly had flats. I ended up going away from that brand for many years. This year I bought some again but instead I ran them at MUCH lower pressure following the Silca pressure chart (which I THOUGHT gave stupid numbers) and have not had a flat in 2000 km. I cannot say if it was a change in tire construction that resulted in less flats, I only know the result.
FWIW my old pressure was around 110 PSI and now it is 80-85 PSI. The first round with GP5000s I weighed 210 lbs and now (after 3 ish years of little activity) 235 lbs.
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09-29-23, 03:55 PM
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I used rubber tubes off the wallmart shelf. Guess I have some more low hanging fruit to get with tubes. Thanks for the tip!
I had the pressure at about 80.
I had the pressure at about 80.
09-29-23, 11:26 PM
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Get those hubs serviced, and you'll see even better results with the gp5000 tires.
Glad you got the ride done and enjoyed it.
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