campy shift cable too short???
05-27-12, 12:34 PM
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campy shift cable too short???
I'm installing Campy Veloce on a CAAD8 frame. I put jagwire inline adjusters in both shift cables, the front is fine. The rear cable is at least 6" too short.
This is a set of ultra low friction cables and housing. I didn't cut much off the housing from the right ergo to the cable stop on the headtube, and I didn't cut anything off the short housing from the stop on the chainstay to the rear derailleur.
This is not a large frame (52cm) and once running along the frame, through the cable guide to the rear cable stop there aren't too many places to go wrong.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Additional info: The rear shift cable has the factory end; it hasn't been cut.
This is a set of ultra low friction cables and housing. I didn't cut much off the housing from the right ergo to the cable stop on the headtube, and I didn't cut anything off the short housing from the stop on the chainstay to the rear derailleur.
This is not a large frame (52cm) and once running along the frame, through the cable guide to the rear cable stop there aren't too many places to go wrong.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Additional info: The rear shift cable has the factory end; it hasn't been cut.
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05-27-12, 01:13 PM
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Two,
Find someplace to trim 6" from the housing.
Buy a longer inner wire.
Most original inner wires are 2000mm which is long enough for most situations. But those with larger frames, or long housing runs at the HB end, may find that too short.
Find someplace to trim 6" from the housing.
Buy a longer inner wire.
Most original inner wires are 2000mm which is long enough for most situations. But those with larger frames, or long housing runs at the HB end, may find that too short.
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05-27-12, 05:28 PM
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Something is wrong, with that small a frame. Maybe they cut a cable too short. That said, there should have been a fair amount cut off the housings from the ergos to the stop on the frame. They are made long enough to use on much larger frames and you increased the length by adding adjusters. I ride a 51cm frame with a 125mm head tube and always have plenty of housing and cable length.
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Stupid question (maybe)
Years ago, Campagnolo supplied two inner wires of different lengths. I don't know if they still do, or if whatever kit you used did likewise. But just in case, is it possible you used the rear wire up front, leaving you the too short (front) wire for the rear?
Years ago, Campagnolo supplied two inner wires of different lengths. I don't know if they still do, or if whatever kit you used did likewise. But just in case, is it possible you used the rear wire up front, leaving you the too short (front) wire for the rear?
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Stupid question (maybe)
Years ago, Campagnolo supplied two inner wires of different lengths. I don't know if they still do, or if whatever kit you used did likewise. But just in case, is it possible you used the rear wire up front, leaving you the too short (front) wire for the rear?
Years ago, Campagnolo supplied two inner wires of different lengths. I don't know if they still do, or if whatever kit you used did likewise. But just in case, is it possible you used the rear wire up front, leaving you the too short (front) wire for the rear?
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I'm always annoyed at how short campy makes their shifter cables.
It's even more annoying trying to get one in a tandem length.
It's even more annoying trying to get one in a tandem length.
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I compared the shift cables and used the shorter one on the front derailleur. I cut about an inch and a half from the housing at the chainstay to the derailleur, and cut an inch from the housing from the ergo to the frame cable stop. It is long enough now.
It just seemed odd that the cable would be too short using the delivered housing lengths on a small frame. I measured the rear cable and it was 200cm just as the directions indicated.
All OK now. I just need to get the initial tension on the cables and then do the fine tuning.
Thanks for the replies and suggestions.
It just seemed odd that the cable would be too short using the delivered housing lengths on a small frame. I measured the rear cable and it was 200cm just as the directions indicated.
All OK now. I just need to get the initial tension on the cables and then do the fine tuning.
Thanks for the replies and suggestions.
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I size the shifter housing from the brifters to the frame cable stops just long enough to allow the bars to be turned fully in each direction. That gives the shortest housing you can safely use.
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I ride a 56, and just built up a new frame with Centaur. I had about 12" leftover on both front & rear shifters, so they seemed fine to me.
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Then I must still have the shift housings way too long, because on my 52cm frame I've only got an inch or so cable remaining from the clamp on the derailleur.
I obviously need to look at another road bike (that's properly set up) and compare cable routing and lengths.
I obviously need to look at another road bike (that's properly set up) and compare cable routing and lengths.
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